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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9728275" data-attributes="member: 18">The two latter concepts are fundamentally interlinked in such a way as to be inseparable, I would suggest.If you want a hummingbird dragon, this lumpen backwards-winged monstrosity is the worst possible starting point.You should start with a smaller dragon, and look at dragonflies (which are similar to hummingbirds in their mode of flight, and also ultra-manueverable), I'd suggest. And anything using rigid aerofoils to fly, that's even say, helicopter-sized is going to generate incredible amounts of downthrust/air movement/noise (including ornithopters that mimic insects not birds).Basically you're looking at a dragon-sized helicopter, only the mechanism is what, using magic to make hummingbird or dragonfly-style wings beat incredibly fast even though they're huge (phasing through the air on an upbeat maybe? god knows what that would do to the vortices but w/e).What would be striking about such a being wouldn't be it's manoeuvrability - its mass would mean it wasn't that manoeuvrable if it was "adult dragon"-sized (unless it was using magic to reduce that too, but that'd be such a weird way to go about it when you can just use magic to make things fly without wings like Eastern dragons do), but rather the absolutely staggering amount of noise it would make and the insane amounts of downforce knocking people around who were under it. It would, I think, be so much louder than any helicopter. You'd probably hear it ten or more miles away. If they were giant magic hummingbird wings instead of dragonfly they might be less devastatingly loud because they're not as hard but hummingbirds are called that for a reason, now imagine that noise scaled up by 1.5 MILLION times. That's how much heavier an adult dragon in D&D is than the largest hummingbird in the word! (80,000lbs vs 24g) They'd make a hum so loud it'd make the world shake. It'd probably shake everything around them to pieces for a considerable distance. I heard a Harrier VTOL take off once in person - that was by far the loudest noise I'd ever heard, deafening at 1000ft away. This would be so much louder. They wouldn't need a breath weapon or w/e, they'd just fly close to people and watch them die!</blockquote>

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