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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 626379" data-attributes="member: 177">Okay, as a number of folks have said, legally speaking these guys seem to be on equal footing.Given that, I'll venture to say that the paladin is verging on greed.  He's focused on having these things for himself.  He's willing to set aside the good and honor of others to have them himself, and is not taking the effort to compromise.  He's missing three very obvious alternatives...1)Tell the dwarf what he needs the items for, followed by, "So, sir dwarf, I hope you can see my cause is right and just.  If I can use these items for this purpose, I can not only depose the despot, but I can also bring further glory to your clan's name.  I offer a compromise - you may take the shield, so long as you either lend it to me when I must face the tyrant, or you stand at my side as my shield man."2)Tell the dwarf what he needs the items for, followed by, "So, sir dwarf, I hope you can see my cause is right and just.  I offer you a compromise - allow me to bear these items until I can face this tyrant on the field, after which you may have them."3)Tell teh dwarf what he needs the items for, followed by, "So, sir dwarf, I hope you can see my cause ir sight and just.  I offer you a compromise - allow me to bear these items, and I will vow to not only use them to depose the tyrant (and thus bring glory to the maker's clan), but I will also undertake a quest with you to further the honor of your clan!#1 is okay, though it might call for the DM to flex a bit on the powers of the set to work with a shield man.  #2 is honorable - if all he really wants 'em for is to beat the tyrant, he should have no qualms about giving them up afterwards.  Though, the new legal owner might claim them anyway, so the paladin would be offering up soemthing that he'd lose anyway, which isn't much of a sacrifice.In a meta-game sense, the last is far superior.  Everyone's happy, it binds the dwarf and the paladin together, and it drops a plot-hook in the DM's lap to use as he pleases, all in one fell stroke!  If the paladin were really looking out for the greatest good for all, he'd choose option 3.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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