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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5157885" data-attributes="member: 82106">From an overall optimization point of view Spiked Chain Training is the way to go <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> You can do that as a Beast Master and now you have a reach weapon to use with beast power, which starts to get more interesting. Also one could consider an axe path, A battle axe in one hand and a hand axe in the other plus the right feats could be joy. Probably worth running it as a dwarf. The real problem is that when you do those type builds it probably works better as a fighter or maybe a whirling barbarian. You lose a beast, but you gain a lot of hit points, a defender class feature, and if OAs are going to happen you gain more extra damage out of it than any other class.The dwarf in the party I run is preposterous. His AC is great, his FORT is monumental, his WILL is pretty good and OK his reflex is TERRIBLE, but the character wielding a big axe FWT 2-handed and has the +WIS to OAs feat and you simply CANNOT draw them. 46 DPR on MBA is just not funny. Once in a while a monster will provoke, but they just die hard. Surround him with a few people and RoS just comes out...</blockquote>