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<blockquote data-quote="Frostmarrow" data-source="post: 4386721" data-attributes="member: 1122">That's a really good idea!Here's the math:I assume a first level character will have a skill modifier of +8. That includes being trained and 16-17 in the pertinent ability score. Most of the time players are assumed to pick a skill they are good with. Such as a fighter with 16-17 Strength trying to work trained athletics into skill challenges.[code]8&nbsp; &nbsp; 9&nbsp; &nbsp; 9&nbsp; &nbsp; 10&nbsp; &nbsp; 10&nbsp; &nbsp; 11&nbsp; &nbsp; 11&nbsp; &nbsp; 13&nbsp; &nbsp; 13&nbsp; &nbsp; 1414&nbsp; &nbsp; 15&nbsp; &nbsp; 15&nbsp; &nbsp; 17&nbsp; &nbsp; 17&nbsp; &nbsp; 18&nbsp; &nbsp; 18&nbsp; &nbsp; 19&nbsp; &nbsp; 19&nbsp; &nbsp; 2021&nbsp; &nbsp; 22&nbsp; &nbsp; 22&nbsp; &nbsp; 23&nbsp; &nbsp; 23&nbsp; &nbsp; 24&nbsp; &nbsp; 24&nbsp; &nbsp; 26&nbsp; &nbsp; 26&nbsp; &nbsp; 27[/code]The table above shows assumed modifiers for heroic level on the first line, paragon on the second line, and epic on the third. This number should be compared to the DCs of respective tier; 20,25,30. Note the staggered progression due to ability score boosts.[code]40&nbsp; &nbsp; 45&nbsp; &nbsp; 45&nbsp; &nbsp; 50&nbsp; &nbsp; 50&nbsp; &nbsp; 55&nbsp; &nbsp; 55&nbsp; &nbsp; 65&nbsp; &nbsp; 65&nbsp; &nbsp; 7045&nbsp; &nbsp; 50&nbsp; &nbsp; 50&nbsp; &nbsp; 60&nbsp; &nbsp; 60&nbsp; &nbsp; 65&nbsp; &nbsp; 65&nbsp; &nbsp; 70&nbsp; &nbsp; 70&nbsp; &nbsp; 7555&nbsp; &nbsp; 60&nbsp; &nbsp; 60&nbsp; &nbsp; 65&nbsp; &nbsp; 65&nbsp; &nbsp; 70&nbsp; &nbsp; 70&nbsp; &nbsp; 80&nbsp; &nbsp; 80&nbsp; &nbsp; 85[/code]The table above shows the chance of success in percent at different levels and tiers when compared to the DCs.[code]1&nbsp; &nbsp; 95%&nbsp; &nbsp; 100%&nbsp; &nbsp; 5%2&nbsp; &nbsp; 90%&nbsp; &nbsp; 99%&nbsp; &nbsp; 9%3&nbsp; &nbsp; 85%&nbsp; &nbsp; 98%&nbsp; &nbsp; 13%4&nbsp; &nbsp; 80%&nbsp; &nbsp; 96%&nbsp; &nbsp; 16%5&nbsp; &nbsp; 75%&nbsp; &nbsp; 94%&nbsp; &nbsp; 19%6&nbsp; &nbsp; 70%&nbsp; &nbsp; 91%&nbsp; &nbsp; 21%[COLOR=&quot;Lime&quot;]7&nbsp; &nbsp; 65%&nbsp; &nbsp; 88%&nbsp; &nbsp; 23%8&nbsp; &nbsp; 60%&nbsp; &nbsp; 84%&nbsp; &nbsp; 24%9&nbsp; &nbsp; 55%&nbsp; &nbsp; 80%&nbsp; &nbsp; 25%10&nbsp; &nbsp; 50%&nbsp; &nbsp; 75%&nbsp; &nbsp; 25%11&nbsp; &nbsp; 45%&nbsp; &nbsp; 70%&nbsp; &nbsp; 25%12&nbsp; &nbsp; 40%&nbsp; &nbsp; 64%&nbsp; &nbsp; 24%13&nbsp; &nbsp; 35%&nbsp; &nbsp; 58%&nbsp; &nbsp; 23%[/COLOR]14&nbsp; &nbsp; 30%&nbsp; &nbsp; 51%&nbsp; &nbsp; 21%15&nbsp; &nbsp; 25%&nbsp; &nbsp; 44%&nbsp; &nbsp; 19%16&nbsp; &nbsp; 20%&nbsp; &nbsp; 36%&nbsp; &nbsp; 16%17&nbsp; &nbsp; 15%&nbsp; &nbsp; 28%&nbsp; &nbsp; 13%18&nbsp; &nbsp; 10%&nbsp; &nbsp; 19%&nbsp; &nbsp; 9%19&nbsp; &nbsp; 5%&nbsp; &nbsp; 10%&nbsp; &nbsp; 5%20&nbsp; &nbsp; 0%&nbsp; &nbsp; 0%&nbsp; &nbsp; 0%[/code]The first column is the number the DM need to roll to succeed. The second column is chance of success in percent. The third column is the chance of success if the DM&nbsp; has a reroll. The fourth column is simply the improvement with the reroll in percent. The green range is where the reroll is about a flat +5. Outside this range the reroll mechanic becomes unreliable fast.The standard modifier for the DM’s rolls used against the assumed skill modifier +10 (passive) is +10,+15, and +25.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Frostmarrow, post: 4386721, member: 1122"] That's a really good idea! Here's the math: I assume a first level character will have a skill modifier of +8. That includes being trained and 16-17 in the pertinent ability score. Most of the time players are assumed to pick a skill they are good with. Such as a fighter with 16-17 Strength trying to work trained athletics into skill challenges. [code]8 9 9 10 10 11 11 13 13 14 14 15 15 17 17 18 18 19 19 20 21 22 22 23 23 24 24 26 26 27 [/code] The table above shows assumed modifiers for heroic level on the first line, paragon on the second line, and epic on the third. This number should be compared to the DCs of respective tier; 20,25,30. Note the staggered progression due to ability score boosts. [code] 40 45 45 50 50 55 55 65 65 70 45 50 50 60 60 65 65 70 70 75 55 60 60 65 65 70 70 80 80 85 [/code] The table above shows the chance of success in percent at different levels and tiers when compared to the DCs. [code]1 95% 100% 5% 2 90% 99% 9% 3 85% 98% 13% 4 80% 96% 16% 5 75% 94% 19% 6 70% 91% 21%[COLOR="Lime"] 7 65% 88% 23% 8 60% 84% 24% 9 55% 80% 25% 10 50% 75% 25% 11 45% 70% 25% 12 40% 64% 24% 13 35% 58% 23%[/COLOR] 14 30% 51% 21% 15 25% 44% 19% 16 20% 36% 16% 17 15% 28% 13% 18 10% 19% 9% 19 5% 10% 5% 20 0% 0% 0% [/code] The first column is the number the DM need to roll to succeed. The second column is chance of success in percent. The third column is the chance of success if the DM has a reroll. The fourth column is simply the improvement with the reroll in percent. The green range is where the reroll is about a flat +5. Outside this range the reroll mechanic becomes unreliable fast. The standard modifier for the DM’s rolls used against the assumed skill modifier +10 (passive) is +10,+15, and +25. [/QUOTE]

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