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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Emerikol" data-source="post: 8234001" data-attributes="member: 6698278">You can't argue with this sort of reasoning because you made it unfalsifiable.  I strongly suspect that people who care a lot about balance strongly suspect everyone else does too.  Now I will admit I didn't have the radical imbalance issues between casters and every other class in any edition of D&D that you apparently had.  I thought wizards have been nerfed from 1e onwards.  I'm not saying nerfed to the point they are bad or weak.  Just weaker than their predecessor.  A 20th level wizard had a 20 die fireball in 1e and lots of them.  I realize also that in my conception of things the fighter's magic equipment was a necessity of the class so there is that.  My fighters always had such things so it never really mattered.  We've hashed this a million times.  You just didn't play the same game I did is all I can say.My take is that 1e > 3e > 5e > 4e given you clean up some of the numbers mess that was 1e which is pretty easy to do and many OSR companies have done it.  Naturally I say that from my perspective given my tastes.  I know it's not true for everybody.   But hey 5e was an improvement over 4e.  So maybe 6e will continue upward.   I don't find 4e or 5e for me playable.  Even with a group of friends I would turn one of those games down even as a player.</blockquote>