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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ProfessorCirno" data-source="post: 4916800" data-attributes="member: 65637">Stormwind Fallacy is, simply enough, a shorter way of saying "A false dilemma fallacy in which you contend that optimization of a character and the ability to roleplay that character are at odds with each other."As you can see, one is notably shorter then the other <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />At it's base, all the fallacy says is "optimization and roleplaying aren't linked together."  You can be awesome at one, awesome at both, or crap at both.  There isn't a FEAR ----------- LOVE line with optimization and roleplaying.  It's not about saying that you can roleplay anything.  It's not even about roleplaying itself.  It's simply stating that optimization vs roleplayability is a false dilemma.  You can have an optimal character that has actual character.  You can have a well built and three dimensional character that's optimized.The whole thing came about when the ROLL PLAYERS VS ROLE PLAYERS was rearing it's ugly head as the moons prophecized.  Instead of just watching both sides insult each other, however, Stormwind decided to make an actual logical argument that went beyond aimless personal attacks.  Of course, since then, he has be a lightning rod and figure head for people to hate on, so that went well.Also, Stormwind was a pretty chill guy.  I never saw him being really rude to others.  He was pretty against the whole thing being named after himself, too, as I recall.</blockquote>

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