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Message: <blockquote data-quote="clearstream" data-source="post: 4921078" data-attributes="member: 71699">In that case [in that case, i.e. the case where chosen roleplay maps for you to a character that happens to be one that is not optimised] to optimise [e.g. if another player starts telling you how to play, and says you have to optimise your character] would conflict with a desire to roleplay the character. [the character that matches your desired roleplay happens to be one that is not optimised, to optimise will mean that you are not roleplaying the character that matched your desired roleplay] A true dilemma occurs. [being forced to choose between roleplaying as you desire or optimising, i.e. changing or setting aside your desire, is a dilemma]. Maybe it looks like I'm saying something I'm not? So here's a list of some things I'm not saying.I'm not saying that you'll have any more fun by playing a character that is not optimised, or one that is; or that either is somehow better. I'm not saying that a given player won't experience other limits that are potentially more restrictive. However, I will say that if something tastes of cinammon, pointing out that other things do as well won't stop that first thing tasting of cinammon. I'm not making a wide argument: really, my argument is extremely narrow. It is a simple defence against being bludgeoned with the idea that you must optimise your character since any conceivable rp you have can't possibly be impaired by doing so. That's simply not true: conceivable rp you have can be impaired by doing so. I'm not saying that one group or another gets more options that they should care about. I've learned from reading other posters that strictness on parameters can vary hugely. Sure, using sets you can show that there are more roleplayable characters than optimised ones (so long as you judge any characters at all to be unoptimised, which you must do, at least transiently, once you feel that you can 'optimise' a character), but depending on the looseness of your parameters the unoptimised set might be smaller again. I'm not saying that everyone means the same thing by 'optimise', but whatever you mean by optimise, the moment you tell someone they should 'optimise their character' you've defined their character as not optimised under some parameters. They can say 'Nope, that interferes with my roleplay' and you can't come back at them and argue that is a false dilemma: because it is not. -vk</blockquote>

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