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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9692141" data-attributes="member: 18">This is nice and all but words still have meaning, and optimizing means optimizing and optimizers means people who optimize their characters, not just people at the very most extreme edge of rules-exploits. So it's not really okay to decry "optimization" per se, I'm sorry, but it's not. At best you're causing confusion unintentionally. At worst, you are acting in bad faith knowing you're going to cause confusion and not caring. Find another word! Make a term up! That's how English works! People did already - like "gunner" with your lawyers. With RPGs we called them "munchkins". This was a perfectly fine term, conveying a fairly exact meaning, but somehow fell out of use. It should fall back into use rather than people mangling English and totally failing to communicate on a basic level because they can't be bothered to convey the information properly, and just want to try and redefine words idiosyncratically and on the spot!Also, you're flatly wrong re: rules-lawyering. People do decry others as rules-lawyers when they're actually just getting the rules right, not trying to wheedle some dodgy advantage. You can't deny that happens, because it's happened on this very messageboard, and it's happened countless times IRL, including in front of me - one of my friends got accused of "rules-lawyering" simply because he knew the rules and the DM didn't about a couple of decades ago (we never played with those twats again, I can tell you that). Some people absolutely use that term as a club when they don't like the fact that they've got the rules wrong, or don't want to actually understand the rules (usually because they prefer the version they have in their head to what is actually written down).</blockquote>

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