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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9692163" data-attributes="member: 18">I think if you intentionally use a term that has a relevant meaning that's not the way you're using it, you are probably either not a good communicator or acting in bad faith and trying to cause a problem. Specifically, trying to redefine &quot;optimizer&quot;, a word which already has a clear and relevant English meaning to mean &quot;guy out to destroy the game with extreme broken builds&quot; is at best, a fool's errand and bound to end in trouble and strife, and at worst, trolling of a admittedly fairly effective and intentional kind.Also, re: being a descriptivist, &quot;optimizer&quot; fails immediately on a descriptive basis, because it's simply too broad in meaning (again, hence &quot;gunner&quot; not just &quot;lawyer&quot;). It's like saying &quot;gym bunny&quot; when you actually mean only people psychotically obsessed with HGH and/or steroids to the point where it's clearly damaging to them, like Joe Rogan or worse. That's why I'm suggesting &quot;munchkin&quot;. It's not prescriptive - I'm not saying it's the only choice, am I? But it means exactly what you're describing - people at the extreme edge of exploits and twisting rules trying to build characters that &quot;win the game&quot; rather than merely are effective or highly effective. There's already a word for that. If we need a new one for some reason, fine, let's make one up so we can actually understand each other, rather than having a select minority of people (and it is a minority) attempt redefine a word that already has a specific and relevant meaning.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9692163, member: 18"] I think if you intentionally use a term that has a relevant meaning that's not the way you're using it, you are probably either not a good communicator or acting in bad faith and trying to cause a problem. Specifically, trying to redefine "optimizer", a word which already has a clear and relevant English meaning to mean "guy out to destroy the game with extreme broken builds" is at best, a fool's errand and bound to end in trouble and strife, and at worst, trolling of a admittedly fairly effective and intentional kind. Also, re: being a descriptivist, "optimizer" fails immediately on a descriptive basis, because it's simply too broad in meaning (again, hence "gunner" not just "lawyer"). It's like saying "gym bunny" when you actually mean only people psychotically obsessed with HGH and/or steroids to the point where it's clearly damaging to them, like Joe Rogan or worse. That's why I'm suggesting "munchkin". It's not prescriptive - I'm not saying it's the only choice, am I? But it means exactly what you're describing - people at the extreme edge of exploits and twisting rules trying to build characters that "win the game" rather than merely are effective or highly effective. There's already a word for that. If we need a new one for some reason, fine, let's make one up so we can actually understand each other, rather than having a select minority of people (and it is a minority) attempt redefine a word that already has a specific and relevant meaning. [/QUOTE]

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