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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9692239" data-attributes="member: 18">You're just repeating what I've said upthread, but you don't see the irony. You're saying "Well a guy who goes jogging twice a week and drinks a protein shake before he does and Joe Rogan out of his mind of HGH and ayahuasca are basically engaging in the same activity!". It's pretty funny to me that you say this with a straight face. Like on a certain level it's true but only if you exaggerate things to a ludicrous degree.The key issue you accidentally identified in passing and then discarded:That's the issue. The entire reason munchkins are a problem is that they're extremely socially maladjusted to the point where they think it's cool to break the game for everyone.Optimizing your own character, so long as it doesn't break the game, is pretty much never a problem. Often it's not even detectable by people who don't understand optimization! But breaking games and making them about you, or starting to do a critique of everyone else's PC for being insufficiently optimized obviously is a problem.</blockquote>