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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 9692333" data-attributes="member: 2205">Not really. Not at all, actually.It's not any problem at all. You're just not getting it. I'm saying exactly that; that what you're calling bad behavior isn't universally seen as bad, and what you're calling perfectly fine behavior isn't universally considered perfectly fine. You're so close, but still not there, because you're only getting it when it goes one way.Yet you missed—maybe I was too subtle—that I wasn't referring to anything that happened to me at the table, I was referring to the comment you made to me that I was responding to.No, I didn't say that at all. I said that I don't like optimization as a focus of the game, and it reduces the fun of the game for me, therefore it has negative utility, therefore it's bad. Not bad as in "you're a bad person", but bad as in "this game is now worse than it would be if you'd knock if off." Many optimizers, or power-gamers as they used to be called (funny that we have to keep looking for a new word. Feels defensive for some reason) are able to work just fine with people who don't care about optimization. But the ones who complain about, try to dictate, and resent behavior that doesn't cater to their playstyle, in my anecdotal experience, have all been optimizers/power-gamers. All of them. While I don't claim that my data set is completely complete, of course, the correlation is unmistakable. To me that's one of the biggest red flags out there beyond creepy behavior that they're going to cause problems in the game, and people who profess power-gamer tendencies, if I have a choice, I'd prefer to politely pass on gaming with.</blockquote>

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