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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9692640" data-attributes="member: 18">I mean, that's not true.Being a munchkin isn't about power level, it's about attitude. Being a munchkin means you don't care about the other players, and you think you can "win" at TTRPGs (primarily by making the game 100% about you/your PC 100% of the time). The usual way they do this is by making broken characters but the power level isn't the defining factor.Also, what do you mean by "super over powered"? Power exists in a context, it's relative - you seem to be saying the "average" 5E D&D character is "super over powered", but that's obviously nonsensical - if everyone is "super over powered", then no-one is "super over powered".So you seem to be confusing and conflating a totally different issue here - what appears to be a personal dislike of games that aren't "street level" or "gritty". That's not got anything to do with "optimization".But what you're describing isn't an actual "problem".The problem seems to be with you and your own choices.You're apparently deciding to play RPGs that have tones and power levels you don't like, then you're apparently getting angry that other people aren't willing to house-rule those games to the power level you want, even though none of them signed up for that. I get that you may regard 5E D&D and the like as "super over powered" - presumably meaning that the PCs are "superheroes" in your view. Well - there's an easy fix for that - don't play those games. Go play something actually gritty like Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay or Call of Cthulhu or DCC something! This is 100% on you. You cannot go around joining games you know don't like the rules/tone of, and then saying "Omg these awful jerks won't house-rule the game to my tastes!!!".If you can't find a game locally that suits your more niche tastes, you can either run one, or you have to go online. Maybe that's not ideal but it's the way of the world for social games like TTRPGs - you need other people, so you need to find people who like the same things as you. You can't just get mad at people and make them change games to suit you.You're literally asking people to change the rules ("most fixes are very easy"), so you can't really complain about this lol. Yeah, house rules do often mess things up - but you're apparently literally advocating for them - no, sorry, apparently demanding people house-rule RPGs to make them not be about PCs who are "super over powered", so...?That may or may not be true, but it's certainly not relevant beyond that it's clear that some minority of people want to use bad experiences with individuals to justify claiming all players who optimize are fiends. And we can do that to any group of people, as much as it might make some people uncomfortable to realize that, and realize the parallels.</blockquote>

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