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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thomas Shey" data-source="post: 9695908" data-attributes="member: 7026617">As I noted earlier, there's matters of degree here; its entirely possible to think you don't care someone has a bit more oomph, but not expect them to be essentially turning themselves into the Main Character and you into a spear-carrier.  Often people who are not naturally inclined toward optimization aren't exactly oriented toward the system analysis required to realize the implications if someone else is; they'll find it out--the hard way--in play.Of course the proper answer is to design your game system in character generation and advancement so the difference between an average build and someone really working the screws isn't that large.  Some have said that's true of D&D 5e (as noted, I'm not qualified to say); my experience says that's usually true with PF2e.   It was absolutely not true, with, say D&D 3e and sometimes is not true in many build systems unless there's a secondary capping mechanism and some flags on some indirect power-buttons.This can't help if someone has a perverse desire to deliberately low-ball a character in their avowed functional area, of course, but that's a self-inflicted wound if they don't like it (though the rest of the group may be less than amused if they assumed the player would actually hold up their own end).</blockquote>