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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 7631589" data-attributes="member: 6795602">I wouldn't go that far.&nbsp; Melee advantage when your charisma based and aren't causing it yourself isn't common in my games.&nbsp; Spells or prone are typically the only way to proc it and even then most of the better combat spells don't cause it.&nbsp; If anything you'll be likely to have it in easy fights and less likely to have it in hard fights IMO - which is the exact opposite of what you would prefer.In the right party though it can be devastating, as some partys nearly always generate advantage - though it's still costing those other PC's resources to generate said advantage that they may could have used to do something just as effective.&nbsp; Anyways, at this point you need presumably 3 feats, which means by level 12 you've still not maxed your charisma and so you pretty much suck when you don't have advantage (because 16 cha isn't really enough to make use of the -5/+10 feature against most enemies).&nbsp; It also means you didn't take the actor feat (or if you did then you did so at the expense of those other feats or your charisma).&nbsp; How though?&nbsp; If you really took elven accuracy, GWM and polearm mastery and the extra attack invocation and the invocation that lets you use a great weapon with the hexblade ability.&nbsp; you presumably only have 16 cha, 2-3 invocation slots open (1 for most of the game), no notable out of combat abilities etc. I guess you have 2-3 short rest recharging spells per day.&nbsp; What are you using them for?I really don't see what he's doing at a B+ level besides melee when allies grace you with advantage.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 7631589, member: 6795602"] I wouldn't go that far. Melee advantage when your charisma based and aren't causing it yourself isn't common in my games. Spells or prone are typically the only way to proc it and even then most of the better combat spells don't cause it. If anything you'll be likely to have it in easy fights and less likely to have it in hard fights IMO - which is the exact opposite of what you would prefer. In the right party though it can be devastating, as some partys nearly always generate advantage - though it's still costing those other PC's resources to generate said advantage that they may could have used to do something just as effective. Anyways, at this point you need presumably 3 feats, which means by level 12 you've still not maxed your charisma and so you pretty much suck when you don't have advantage (because 16 cha isn't really enough to make use of the -5/+10 feature against most enemies). It also means you didn't take the actor feat (or if you did then you did so at the expense of those other feats or your charisma). How though? If you really took elven accuracy, GWM and polearm mastery and the extra attack invocation and the invocation that lets you use a great weapon with the hexblade ability. you presumably only have 16 cha, 2-3 invocation slots open (1 for most of the game), no notable out of combat abilities etc. I guess you have 2-3 short rest recharging spells per day. What are you using them for? I really don't see what he's doing at a B+ level besides melee when allies grace you with advantage. [/QUOTE]

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