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<blockquote data-quote="TwoSix" data-source="post: 7631999" data-attributes="member: 205">Yea, in my own groups, counterspell is cast and hope for the best, we don't have spell ID rules.&nbsp; So hitting 4th and 5th level spells (a fairly broad swath of spells) is a noticeable boon.&nbsp; Sure.&nbsp; Having a reserve of spells to pull out when the situation demands it is obviously the single biggest benefit to playing a caster.&nbsp; But it's not like having a counterspell available is an either/or choice.&nbsp; If it's on your spell list, you should probably have it prepped or known.&nbsp;&nbsp; Having 2 casters in the party with counterspell also lets you shutdown the enemy mage counterspelling an initial counterspell.Sure.&nbsp; But again, I'm not arguing that the warlock should have it instead ofthe wizard or sorcerer (or bard with Magical Secrets), I'm arguing they should both have it but the warlock should be the first choice to cast it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TwoSix, post: 7631999, member: 205"] Yea, in my own groups, counterspell is cast and hope for the best, we don't have spell ID rules. So hitting 4th and 5th level spells (a fairly broad swath of spells) is a noticeable boon. Sure. Having a reserve of spells to pull out when the situation demands it is obviously the single biggest benefit to playing a caster. But it's not like having a counterspell available is an either/or choice. If it's on your spell list, you should probably have it prepped or known. Having 2 casters in the party with counterspell also lets you shutdown the enemy mage counterspelling an initial counterspell. Sure. But again, I'm not arguing that the warlock should have it [I]instead of[/I]the wizard or sorcerer (or bard with Magical Secrets), I'm arguing they should both have it but the warlock should be the first choice to cast it. [/QUOTE]

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