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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 5642396" data-attributes="member: 67338"><p>we had some problems... in the first game (the mods h1-e3) we rolled for stats...and that lead to a real problem...</p><p></p><p></p><p>optimized defender eledrin swordmage (about 40pt buy...20 dex and int starting...and a 17 con)</p><p></p><p>optimized striker ranger elfi (bow) (about 28pt character)</p><p></p><p>tried to optimized leader Warlord genesi (14pt character)</p><p></p><p>un op striker shadir ki rouge (20pt character)</p><p></p><p>un op defender human fighter (21pt characgter)</p><p></p><p>un op controler eladrin wizard (21pt character)</p><p></p><p></p><p>at heroic it wasn't so bad... around level 13 we noticed a problem when the rouge action pointed with bonus from the warlord, spent 2 dailys and a magic item power...and did 137pt of damage to an elite... he did a little dance, and explained it was the best damage he had done the entire campaign... the next round the ranger used an encounter power to drop a target, got a free action point, and used it to sped a second encounter power... then slamed his fist at how bad his dice roll was for damage... when added up his 2 encounters dis 134 damage...</p><p></p><p>the rouge almost wuite thegame at that moment.</p><p></p><p>at the same moment we had the fighter and swordmag having vastly diffrent effectivness...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>now this week we still argue over how bad that was... the ranger player still insists that is perfectly fine... for 1 player to do bad and do the same amount of damage as another striker doing there best...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 5642396, member: 67338"] we had some problems... in the first game (the mods h1-e3) we rolled for stats...and that lead to a real problem... optimized defender eledrin swordmage (about 40pt buy...20 dex and int starting...and a 17 con) optimized striker ranger elfi (bow) (about 28pt character) tried to optimized leader Warlord genesi (14pt character) un op striker shadir ki rouge (20pt character) un op defender human fighter (21pt characgter) un op controler eladrin wizard (21pt character) at heroic it wasn't so bad... around level 13 we noticed a problem when the rouge action pointed with bonus from the warlord, spent 2 dailys and a magic item power...and did 137pt of damage to an elite... he did a little dance, and explained it was the best damage he had done the entire campaign... the next round the ranger used an encounter power to drop a target, got a free action point, and used it to sped a second encounter power... then slamed his fist at how bad his dice roll was for damage... when added up his 2 encounters dis 134 damage... the rouge almost wuite thegame at that moment. at the same moment we had the fighter and swordmag having vastly diffrent effectivness... now this week we still argue over how bad that was... the ranger player still insists that is perfectly fine... for 1 player to do bad and do the same amount of damage as another striker doing there best... [/QUOTE]
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