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<blockquote data-quote="Jackinthegreen" data-source="post: 6196535" data-attributes="member: 6678119"><p>Are you still intent on going lockdown, or would a different kind of play style work? I don't think clerics on their own are particularly powerful for lockdown/trip, but I suspect there are a few spells that could do the job.</p><p></p><p>Did you have any ACFs in mind? With quite a bit of help from others I've put together lists of <a href="http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=8732.0" target="_blank">regular book and online ACFs</a> as well as <a href="http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=9028.0" target="_blank">Dragon Mag ACFs</a>. Do any of those additional options strike your fancy?</p><p></p><p>If you still want to do tripping I know of a few ways to get Improved Trip without needing Combat Expertise, or at least needing to qualify for CE. For barbarians there's the Wolf Totem ACF from UA that gets them Improved Trip in place of Uncanny Dodge at 2nd. For monks there are the Hand and Foot or Passive Way styles that grant it as a bonus feat (H&F at 6th and PW at 2nd).</p><p></p><p>The martial monk variant in Dragon 310 page 45ish can get fighter feats as bonus monk feats. One interpretation of that is that since they're monk bonus feats and monks don't need to qualify for the feats, it allows the character to take any fighter bonus feat since no prerequisites are necessary. Most groups find that cheesy, however, so working with your DM on a balanced interpretation would likely be wise if you want to go that route.</p><p></p><p>In Dragon Mag 326 on page 97 there's an alternate ranger combat style called Piscator that gets Improved Trip at 6th. It's based on a bit of TWF with a net and a trident and goes into the combat style feat <a href="http://dndtools.eu/feats/complete-warrior--61/net-and-trident--2052/" target="_blank">Net and Trident</a>.</p><p></p><p>A monk and psywar build with <a href="http://dndtools.eu/feats/secrets-of-sarlona--14/tashalatora--3415/" target="_blank">Tashalatora</a> might work for you, although if you go lockdown and use Combat Reflexes then remember that dream dwarfs have a penalty to dex so you won't be able to get as many AoOs, especially if you decide to make liberal use of Expansion which will lower your dex even further.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jackinthegreen, post: 6196535, member: 6678119"] Are you still intent on going lockdown, or would a different kind of play style work? I don't think clerics on their own are particularly powerful for lockdown/trip, but I suspect there are a few spells that could do the job. Did you have any ACFs in mind? With quite a bit of help from others I've put together lists of [url=http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=8732.0]regular book and online ACFs[/url] as well as [url=http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=9028.0]Dragon Mag ACFs[/url]. Do any of those additional options strike your fancy? If you still want to do tripping I know of a few ways to get Improved Trip without needing Combat Expertise, or at least needing to qualify for CE. For barbarians there's the Wolf Totem ACF from UA that gets them Improved Trip in place of Uncanny Dodge at 2nd. For monks there are the Hand and Foot or Passive Way styles that grant it as a bonus feat (H&F at 6th and PW at 2nd). The martial monk variant in Dragon 310 page 45ish can get fighter feats as bonus monk feats. One interpretation of that is that since they're monk bonus feats and monks don't need to qualify for the feats, it allows the character to take any fighter bonus feat since no prerequisites are necessary. Most groups find that cheesy, however, so working with your DM on a balanced interpretation would likely be wise if you want to go that route. In Dragon Mag 326 on page 97 there's an alternate ranger combat style called Piscator that gets Improved Trip at 6th. It's based on a bit of TWF with a net and a trident and goes into the combat style feat [url=http://dndtools.eu/feats/complete-warrior--61/net-and-trident--2052/]Net and Trident[/url]. A monk and psywar build with [url=http://dndtools.eu/feats/secrets-of-sarlona--14/tashalatora--3415/]Tashalatora[/url] might work for you, although if you go lockdown and use Combat Reflexes then remember that dream dwarfs have a penalty to dex so you won't be able to get as many AoOs, especially if you decide to make liberal use of Expansion which will lower your dex even further. [/QUOTE]
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