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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CroBob" data-source="post: 6056982" data-attributes="member: 6683307">I didn't say anything about combat. You can die outside of combat.I agree, but this point still stands. If you create a PC who is so atrociously anti-optimized that he's at serious risk of dying when the risk of dying is moderate at best for the other characters, then that thing I just said.I never said it was the DM's job. Are you arguing against the things I'm saying or just arguing to argue? The point itself is primarily hypothetical, but theoretically possible. Like, say, a Rogue with a 6 Dex who keeps getting injured in attempting to pick trapped locks, but he keeps failing because his Dex is so low, and then failing his reflex saves and not evading, too. That's a silly character, even if his personality is rich, because he's a rogue doing rogue things, but without the stats a rogue should have to do their job effectively.If you made the character to be a hard hitter and took the rogue levels for the sneak attack and he has a high strength, then that's optimizing for hard hitting, and he should probably not worry about those rogue jobs, but that's not the character in the hypothetical.</blockquote>