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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 6057168" data-attributes="member: 19675">The main things I'm arguing about are:1) language: it does not help persuade others to your side if you use demeaning terminology like &quot;silly&quot; or &quot;gimp&quot;.&nbsp; It does the opposite.&nbsp; In the particular, it makes me wonder if you are the kind of optimizer I dislike.2) attitude: that assumption that one way is better than another.&nbsp; When I got into this hobby back in 1977, you made your character, then sat down and played the game with your buddies.&nbsp; Nobody gave a bag of rats asses if you did things a bit off, like used a short sword as your primary weapon instead of a 2 hander or if you used some of the weirder spells in the game.&nbsp; Over time, in certain games like 3.5Ed (my favorite version of D&amp;D), there arose a new attitude- if your character wasn't combat optimized in some way, you were letting everyone down.&nbsp; I don't buy that.&nbsp; It's a roleplaying game, not a wargame; it is a group game, not a team game.My PCs always contribute, but not necessarily in combat, and not necessarily in the way people expect.&nbsp; For the most part, people I game with are mature enough to realize that not every member of the group need be equally capable on the battlefield.Again, if the DM has no problem with my PC, what business is it of yours what I'm playing?&nbsp; In LotR, they didn't have a test to see which hobbit(s) they thought could make the trip.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 6057168, member: 19675"] The main things I'm arguing about are: 1) language: it does not help persuade others to your side if you use demeaning terminology like "silly" or "gimp". It does the opposite. In the particular, it makes me wonder if you are the kind of optimizer I dislike. 2) attitude: that assumption that one way is better than another. When I got into this hobby back in 1977, you made your character, then sat down and played the game with your buddies. Nobody gave a bag of rats asses if you did things a bit off, like used a short sword as your primary weapon instead of a 2 hander or if you used some of the weirder spells in the game. Over time, in certain games like 3.5Ed (my favorite version of D&D), there arose a new attitude- if your character wasn't combat optimized in some way, you were letting everyone down. I don't buy that. It's a roleplaying game, not a wargame; it is a group game, not a team game. My PCs always contribute, but not necessarily in combat, and not necessarily in the way people expect. For the most part, people I game with are mature enough to realize that not every member of the group need be equally capable on the battlefield. Again, if the DM has no problem with my PC, what business is it of yours what I'm playing? In LotR, they didn't have a test to see which hobbit(s) they thought could make the trip. [/QUOTE]

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