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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 6057187" data-attributes="member: 5143">I think the motivation in this case is more, new, and different options.  You might be bored of playing Fighters, but that new Mechromancer class sounds like something you'd like to try.  It isn't more powerful, but you get to animate robots and attack people with them.  That's AWESOME. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Or you are just happen to really want to try a different type of fighter, one that fights barehanded that didn't have rules support before then.Of course, I disagree about there not being an edition that fixes most of these problems.  However, even from my point of view of liking 4e, it isn't immune to issues either.  As time goes on, it is receiving the same powercreep that 3.5e did and some of the same issues are coming up(although, I admit, to a lesser extent than they did in my 3.5e game).I have a character in 4e who, when he charges turns invisible and gets so many bonuses that he hits enemies 3 levels above him on a 2 and does nearly half their health in damage due to powergaming.  Then, his defenses go up so high that monsters can't hit him.  It's become no fun to run encounters since they are not even a challenge.Not quite as bad as the average encounter at the end of 3.5e when the powergamers in our group would kill demons whose CR was 4 above the average level of the party in round one before it got to act.I'm looking forward to D&D Next if mainly for a system that will, at least at the start not be broken this way.  But I keep playing with the broken system I have, so I know the feeling.</blockquote>

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