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<blockquote data-quote="hamstertamer" data-source="post: 6057674" data-attributes="member: 6690665">If the term &quot;optimizer&quot; has different definitions, as many claim it does (for whatever reason or agenda).&nbsp; Then the point of the thread is now gone and there is no point in posting about it.It was my understanding that optimizer was just a synonym for power-gamer, min-maxer, &amp; power-builder.It has been my experience that creating a character with a core class and core race has always been effective.&nbsp; I never had to optimize anything for it to be effective.&nbsp; So claiming that someone needs to optimize to be effective sounds dubious to me.&nbsp; People don't power-optimize (this is the term I'll have to use now) to be effective they do it to be more effective than normal.The sad thing about power-optimization is just how pointless it really is in a RPG.&nbsp; Most DMs just power-optimize their combat encounters and world in reaction to it.&nbsp; I just create situations and combat scenarios where it never comes up that often.And yes, power-optimizers tend not to be good role players and have bad decision making at that organic level.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="hamstertamer, post: 6057674, member: 6690665"] If the term "optimizer" has different definitions, as many claim it does (for whatever reason or agenda). Then the point of the thread is now gone and there is no point in posting about it. It was my understanding that optimizer was just a synonym for power-gamer, min-maxer, & power-builder. It has been my experience that creating a character with a core class and core race has always been effective. I never had to optimize anything for it to be effective. So claiming that someone needs to optimize to be effective sounds dubious to me. People don't power-optimize (this is the term I'll have to use now) to be effective they do it to be more effective than normal. The sad thing about power-optimization is just how pointless it really is in a RPG. Most DMs just power-optimize their combat encounters and world in reaction to it. I just create situations and combat scenarios where it never comes up that often. And yes, power-optimizers tend not to be good role players and have bad decision making at that organic level. [/QUOTE]

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