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<blockquote data-quote="hamstertamer" data-source="post: 6057784" data-attributes="member: 6690665">You sure you can.&nbsp; &nbsp;Ah no, power-optimizers are about being better than core, better than average, better better better.&nbsp; A dual-flail-wielding fighter would work out fine in my game.&nbsp; Disarming with one attack than attacking with another doesn't sound bad at all.&nbsp; I once had a female barbarian who liked to use a whip and shield, or whip and weapon combo.&nbsp; Worked out fine and it was an interesting character overall.&nbsp; I actually like it when characters have interesting ideas.&nbsp; So I guess I haven't ran into any &quot;traps&quot; that needs to power-optimized away. To make it clear again, power-optimization is about being better, squeezing out more power, not about maintaining the status quo (that's one thing it is differently not about).&nbsp; The status quo is met by NOT power-optimizing any characters unless everyone power-optimizes including the creatures and enemies of the game world.&nbsp;No again, the game is completely playable by a power-optimizers they just expect something different.&nbsp; It's just my style of DMing. I'm not penalizing them deliberately or need to.&nbsp; They soon realize after a few sessions that power-optimizing was pointless.It's not sad, It's just my experienced opinion.&nbsp; The problem seems to be that people don't want the definition of optimizer to be objective.&nbsp; I, on the other hand, do and so I talk about the power-optimizer only.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="hamstertamer, post: 6057784, member: 6690665"] You sure you can. Ah no, power-optimizers are about being better than core, better than average, better better better. A dual-flail-wielding fighter would work out fine in my game. Disarming with one attack than attacking with another doesn't sound bad at all. I once had a female barbarian who liked to use a whip and shield, or whip and weapon combo. Worked out fine and it was an interesting character overall. I actually like it when characters have interesting ideas. So I guess I haven't ran into any "traps" that needs to power-optimized away. To make it clear again, power-optimization is about being better, squeezing out more power, not about maintaining the status quo (that's one thing it is differently not about). The status quo is met by NOT power-optimizing any characters unless everyone power-optimizes including the creatures and enemies of the game world. No again, the game is completely playable by a power-optimizers they just expect something different. It's just my style of DMing. I'm not penalizing them deliberately or need to. They soon realize after a few sessions that power-optimizing was pointless. It's not sad, It's just my experienced opinion. The problem seems to be that people don't want the definition of optimizer to be objective. I, on the other hand, do and so I talk about the power-optimizer only. [/QUOTE]

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