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<blockquote data-quote="Timely Drought" data-source="post: 4427894" data-attributes="member: 13859">About all the inspire courage optimization, its not gonna happen. We're doing Core + Complete series only. I'm not going to ask for exceptions for a bunch of stuff. I wouldn't want the other players to import broken combinations of feats from other sources either.I really don't see the use of hide and move silently. For a rogue, sure. And rangers. But a bard? I'd rather hide in plain sight and totally abuse disguise spell and/or subsonics. If I'm desperate to sneak around I can use invisibility and silence.As for the rest, they don't seem as good as what I've picked already. I've got Jack of All Trades, so I have half my my level in all of these skills anyway, and can use them all untrained. I'm going for sleight of hand for my last feat to replace concentration, since its handy for both swiping things and the conceal spellcasting skill trick in Complete Scoundrel.I noticed from a bard optimization thread that since virtuoso spellcasting starts at 2, you can pick 1 virtuoso level, then 1 sublime chord, then the rest in virtuoso to increase the sublime chord progression. Although thats the kind of optimization I dislike. It completely disregards PrCs as the special training of elite organizations in the game world. Jumping from one prestige class to another should not be allowed, in my opinion. Also, virtuoso is a rather silly prestige class. The last thing bards need are to be made sillier.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Timely Drought, post: 4427894, member: 13859"] About all the inspire courage optimization, its not gonna happen. We're doing Core + Complete series only. I'm not going to ask for exceptions for a bunch of stuff. I wouldn't want the other players to import broken combinations of feats from other sources either. I really don't see the use of hide and move silently. For a rogue, sure. And rangers. But a bard? I'd rather hide in plain sight and totally abuse disguise spell and/or subsonics. If I'm desperate to sneak around I can use invisibility and silence. As for the rest, they don't seem as good as what I've picked already. I've got Jack of All Trades, so I have half my my level in all of these skills anyway, and can use them all untrained. I'm going for sleight of hand for my last feat to replace concentration, since its handy for both swiping things and the conceal spellcasting skill trick in Complete Scoundrel. I noticed from a bard optimization thread that since virtuoso spellcasting starts at 2, you can pick 1 virtuoso level, then 1 sublime chord, then the rest in virtuoso to increase the sublime chord progression. Although thats the kind of optimization I dislike. It completely disregards PrCs as the special training of elite organizations in the game world. Jumping from one prestige class to another should not be allowed, in my opinion. Also, virtuoso is a rather silly prestige class. The last thing bards need are to be made sillier. [/QUOTE]

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