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<blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 1343405" data-attributes="member: 141"><p>I'm trying to find ways to make the morale bonus to attack and damage as effective as possible.</p><p></p><p>From Song and Silence:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Interpreted in 3.5 terms, I take this as a +1 to attack and damage, and a -2 to saves vs charm effects.</p><p></p><p>Similarly, I interpret the spell <em>harmony</em> from Magic of Faerun to add a +1 to attack and damage, and +2 to saves vs charm effects:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Now comes the tricky part- the Words of Creation introduced in the Book of Exalted Deeds. Applied to bardic music, it says the following:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>First- can words of creation be used with a horn? Or do you need to be able to vocalize them? The BXD says</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But this is flavor text, and doesn't say that they can only be used in a song; who says that mental formation of the words wouldn't have the same effect on a performance. The Words of Creation feat is an exalted feat, and so is supernatural in nature rather than an extraordinary ability (p. 39). I don't know if the fact that words of creation is a supernatural ability helps decide whether they need to be vocalized to work.</p><p></p><p>So that's the first question- the second is whether one adds and then doubles, or doubles and then adds? I know that with the empower feat you add first, then increase by 50%. With critical hits constant modifiers are affected by the critical (but dice bonuses are not). Would the same hold true of the morale bonus- add, then double?</p><p></p><p>The most favorable interpretation of the rules (for the bard) would have words of creation work with a horn, and then, casting <em>harmony</em> first, an 8th level bard would be able to grant a +8 bonus to the attack and damage rolls of his comrades. +2 base, +1 from the horn, +1 from <em>harmony</em>, doubled by words of creation. +6 if the doubling happens first and then the addition.</p><p></p><p>Comments?</p><p></p><p>Does anyone know any other way of boosting the effectiveness of Inspire Courage?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cheiromancer, post: 1343405, member: 141"] I'm trying to find ways to make the morale bonus to attack and damage as effective as possible. From Song and Silence: Interpreted in 3.5 terms, I take this as a +1 to attack and damage, and a -2 to saves vs charm effects. Similarly, I interpret the spell [i]harmony[/i] from Magic of Faerun to add a +1 to attack and damage, and +2 to saves vs charm effects: Now comes the tricky part- the Words of Creation introduced in the Book of Exalted Deeds. Applied to bardic music, it says the following: First- can words of creation be used with a horn? Or do you need to be able to vocalize them? The BXD says But this is flavor text, and doesn't say that they can only be used in a song; who says that mental formation of the words wouldn't have the same effect on a performance. The Words of Creation feat is an exalted feat, and so is supernatural in nature rather than an extraordinary ability (p. 39). I don't know if the fact that words of creation is a supernatural ability helps decide whether they need to be vocalized to work. So that's the first question- the second is whether one adds and then doubles, or doubles and then adds? I know that with the empower feat you add first, then increase by 50%. With critical hits constant modifiers are affected by the critical (but dice bonuses are not). Would the same hold true of the morale bonus- add, then double? The most favorable interpretation of the rules (for the bard) would have words of creation work with a horn, and then, casting [i]harmony[/i] first, an 8th level bard would be able to grant a +8 bonus to the attack and damage rolls of his comrades. +2 base, +1 from the horn, +1 from [i]harmony[/i], doubled by words of creation. +6 if the doubling happens first and then the addition. Comments? Does anyone know any other way of boosting the effectiveness of Inspire Courage? [/QUOTE]
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