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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 3380798" data-attributes="member: 1465">Most spells I can remember (e.g. Disintegrate) with Fortitude Partial are so that if you fail the ST you die, and if you win the ST you only take damage. In that case Mettle negates the damage, no problem because it is actually a lesser effect.There are probably only a few spells where the Fort ST halves the damamge in a similar way as Reflex ST (Cloudkill), and in this case also no problem, if you beat the ST then you're tough enough so that the Cloudkill doesn't harm you at all.In cases where the two effects are very different, I might choose to rule it as makes more sense to me. But I don't see any big problem in simply allowing to escape all effects on a successful save. Actually I am not particularly fond of spells with NO save at all (even for partial effects), so Mettle doesn't bother me.The whole problem with the Orbs is because you can escape the greater orb's effect, but not the lesser orb's effect...If the spells were named differently ("Vitriolic bullet" and "Corrosive blast") no one would have bothered.</blockquote>