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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Feldspar" data-source="post: 2001039" data-attributes="member: 20450">You'd have to add something extra like those proficiencies for the orc raised ones or else their abilities would be a subset of those raised by humans and that wouldn't be fair.And as far as filling niches goes, a Dwarf will cover anything anything the human can't.  Compare a Dwarf warrior type to a half-Orc: both have Darkvision, both move 20 ft in medium or heavy armor, +2 Con is almost as good as +2 Str and the Dwarf gets a ton of other goodies.  We've actually made a tweak to tone down Dwarves a bit in our campaign.We've modified the PHB weapons table a little, but the only new racial weapon we've added is a Gnome Battlepick thats a 1 handed EWP in the same manner as the Bastard Sword: Battlepick, gnome  30 gp  1d6  1d8  x4  8 lb.  PiercingSo, we haven't had to add any familiarities to elves and have found humans to be good enough as is.  Here's the houserule section we have for races:bold text is newitalicized text is commentary on the changeDWARVES <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">+2 Constitution, –2 Dexterity; Dwarves are stout and strong but tend to lack flexibility and grace.  I have a harder time picturing a Dwarf as a cat burglar (scaling walls, tumbling, picking pockets) or swashbuckling fencer than I do as war chanting bard, sorcerer, paladin or diplomat. It also takes their combat ability down a needed peg.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Weapon Familiarity: Dwarves may treat dwarven waraxes and dwarven urgroshes as martial weapons, rather than exotic weapons.  A Strength score of 13+, as per the Exotic Weapon Proficiency feat, is required to wield a dwarven waraxe in one hand. You may not have to spend the feat, but wielding a waraxe one handed should remain the mark of a hero.</li> </ul>GNOMES <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Weapon Familiarity: Gnomes may treat gnome battlepicks and gnome hooked hammers as martial weapons rather than exotic weapons.  A Strength score of 13+, as per the Exotic Weapon Proficiency feat, is required to wield a gnome battlepick in one hand.  You may not have to spend the feat, but wielding a battlepick one handed should remain the mark of a hero.</li> </ul>HALF-ORCS <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">+2 racial bonus on Intimidate and Sense Motive checks: Half-orcs are not readily accepted among any race; Half-orcs must quickly learn how to identify allies and discourage challengers in order to survive.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Weapon Affinity: Combining the natural aggressiveness and combative nature of orcs with humankinds adaptability and quick learning has produced a race which takes to weapon play like no other.  Half-orcs may choose one of the following: <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Simple: may consider themselves proficient with all simple weapons</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Martial: may treat any martial weapon as if it were a simple weapon</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Exotic: may treat one chosen exotic weapon as if it were a martial weapon</li> </ul></li> </ul>I think this new version takes care of any of the cultural issues and instead bases it on a fusion of racial characteristics.  So the single class half-orc wizard would only be able to get benefit from taking the Weapon Affinity: Simple.  As a wizard they've only had the most rudimentary combat training, yet they have no problems using such simple weapons as longspears and maces.  A thuggish half-orc rogue forgets about trying to fence prettily and instead just bashes his opponent with a greataxe, taking advantage of his natural strength and his choice of Weapon Affinity: Martial.  The half-orc ranger who is planning to go with the two weapon fighting track eagerly selects Weapon Affinity: orc double axe.  Players may choose any of the options, regardless of what their first class will be; it just might not be useable.  For example, a player could select Weapon Affinity: spiked chain and then start as a thief.  They would not be able to use the chain as a rogue, but if they later gained a level in a class which gave proficiency in all martial weapons then they would be able to.Well besides being quite the thread-jack, what do y'all think?</blockquote>

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