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<blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 8924359" data-attributes="member: 8461">Is it? I'm hearing people put forward this idea that Pathfinder 2 was never really derivative of 3.5, and only used the OGL for the sake of making it easy for third-parties to make compatible supplements (though that makes it a bit awkward why they didn't just post it under the OGL without listing the 3.5 SRD in their Section 15), but I find it rather hard to believe.It's certainly a different game, but not at all derivative? While not completely identical, their <a href="https://2e.aonprd.com/Spells.aspx?ID=35" target="_blank">chill touch</a> looks a lot like the 3.5 <a href="https://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/chillTouch.htm" target="_blank">chill touch</a>. Their <a href="https://2e.aonprd.com/Equipment.aspx?ID=621" target="_blank">talisman of the sphere</a> looks a lot like the 3.5 <a href="https://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/artifacts.htm#talismanoftheSphere" target="_blank">talisman of the sphere</a>. Their <a href="https://2e.aonprd.com/Monsters.aspx?ID=598" target="_blank">babau demon</a> looks a lot like the 3.5 <a href="https://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/demon.htm#babau" target="_blank">babau demon</a>, etc.I know a lot of people talk about various system processes in the game engine (e.g. things like actions in combat, attack and damage rolls, saving throws, etc.) as being central aspects of determining whether or not PF2 is derivative of 3.5, but while I think that debate is far from settled, the number of things unique to 3.5 which PF2 uses isn't few; if they want to change all of the names that they use from the 3.5 SRD (at the very least), then they have their work cut out for them.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Alzrius, post: 8924359, member: 8461"] Is it? I'm hearing people put forward this idea that Pathfinder 2 was never [I]really [/I]derivative of 3.5, and only used the OGL for the sake of making it easy for third-parties to make compatible supplements (though that makes it a bit awkward why they didn't just post it under the OGL [I]without[/I] listing the 3.5 SRD in their Section 15), but I find it rather hard to believe. It's certainly a different game, but not at all derivative? While not completely identical, their [URL='https://2e.aonprd.com/Spells.aspx?ID=35'][I]chill touch[/I][/URL] looks a lot like the 3.5 [I][url=https://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/chillTouch.htm]chill touch[/url][/I]. Their [URL='https://2e.aonprd.com/Equipment.aspx?ID=621'][I]talisman of the sphere[/I][/URL] looks a lot like the 3.5 [URL='https://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/artifacts.htm#talismanoftheSphere'][I]talisman of the sphere[/I][/URL]. Their [URL='https://2e.aonprd.com/Monsters.aspx?ID=598']babau demon[/URL] looks a lot like the 3.5 [URL='https://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/demon.htm#babau']babau demon[/URL], etc. I know a lot of people talk about various system processes in the game engine (e.g. things like actions in combat, attack and damage rolls, saving throws, etc.) as being central aspects of determining whether or not PF2 is derivative of 3.5, but while I think that debate is far from settled, the number of things unique to 3.5 which PF2 uses isn't few; if they want to change all of the names that they use from the 3.5 SRD (at the very least), then they have their work cut out for them. [/QUOTE]

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