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<blockquote data-quote="Gez" data-source="post: 1729673" data-attributes="member: 1328"><p>Orcs are <em>usually chaotic evil</em>, which means that, as long as you do not have, in the whole world, a majority of orcs who are <em>not</em> CE, you aren't house-ruling anything. You can have a few LE tribes of orcs, even a few CG tribes of orcs, as long as the majority of tribes are CE, you're golden. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Perioikoi and Helots are roles to be filled by slaves. Human slaves are a good bet, because they allow you to have half-orc slaves, who are both smart (compared to other orcs) and strong (compared to other slaves). Some half-orc slaves could have a high station as advisors.</p><p></p><p>Another thing to remember: ever since the Spartan started their "Spartan" traditions, their population steadfastly diminished (despite turning women into baby factories). Lycurgus and others thought this eugenist policy would allow them to outperform Athens and vainquish this rival city, but the result was that Athens just had to wait a bit until the Spartans would be overwhelmed. Spartan laws are a way to fall on your own sword. So, unless orcish women are, biologically, much more fertile than human women (usually giving birth to entire litter of orclings rather than a single baby), this model is not sustainable. The tribe must have adopted this custom relatively recently (maybe after a disaster, thinking it befell them because they weren't worthy, or some similar scapegoatism).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gez, post: 1729673, member: 1328"] Orcs are [i]usually chaotic evil[/i], which means that, as long as you do not have, in the whole world, a majority of orcs who are [i]not[/i] CE, you aren't house-ruling anything. You can have a few LE tribes of orcs, even a few CG tribes of orcs, as long as the majority of tribes are CE, you're golden. :) Perioikoi and Helots are roles to be filled by slaves. Human slaves are a good bet, because they allow you to have half-orc slaves, who are both smart (compared to other orcs) and strong (compared to other slaves). Some half-orc slaves could have a high station as advisors. Another thing to remember: ever since the Spartan started their "Spartan" traditions, their population steadfastly diminished (despite turning women into baby factories). Lycurgus and others thought this eugenist policy would allow them to outperform Athens and vainquish this rival city, but the result was that Athens just had to wait a bit until the Spartans would be overwhelmed. Spartan laws are a way to fall on your own sword. So, unless orcish women are, biologically, much more fertile than human women (usually giving birth to entire litter of orclings rather than a single baby), this model is not sustainable. The tribe must have adopted this custom relatively recently (maybe after a disaster, thinking it befell them because they weren't worthy, or some similar scapegoatism). [/QUOTE]
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