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<blockquote data-quote="Lyxen" data-source="post: 8533443" data-attributes="member: 7032025">I think you are getting it wrong here. Some people are already loving and using these two races. And the people who love them as they are would not love them anymore once transformed, because their badassness is also part of what makes them cool.Actually, the thing is that, for some people, the fact that other people love them as they are IS the problem. They are assuming that they are loved for the wrong reasons - and they are wrong in all the cases that I know of personally - and that they are propagating wrong messages - in which they are wrong, again, for all the people that I know of at least, since we make absolutely no correlation between these races and the real world. Actually, one of my best friends and his daughter whom I lay with every week are people of colour and they absolutely love drows. The father, in particular, plays them every chance he gets, and evil when allowed to by the campaign.The only solution is to show that there is absolutely no correlation between these races and the real world. And honestly, orcs in D&amp;D have always been grey, grin or pink anyway. As for the drows, do you know anyone with absolutely black skin and the other features of a drow ? So it should be easy, except that some people have latched onto that and are using it as a lever to change other things in D&amp;D, some of which need indeed to be portrayed more inclusively for example gender.As an other solution, closer to what you suggest, maybe create a race that has dark skin but is good ? But I doubt that would work either.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lyxen, post: 8533443, member: 7032025"] I think you are getting it wrong here. Some people are already loving and using these two races. And the people who love them as they are would not love them anymore once transformed, because their badassness is also part of what makes them cool. Actually, the thing is that, for some people, the fact that other people love them as they are IS the problem. They are assuming that they are loved for the wrong reasons - and they are wrong in all the cases that I know of personally - and that they are propagating wrong messages - in which they are wrong, again, for all the people that I know of at least, since we make absolutely no correlation between these races and the real world. Actually, one of my best friends and his daughter whom I lay with every week are people of colour and they absolutely love drows. The father, in particular, plays them every chance he gets, and evil when allowed to by the campaign. The only solution is to show that there is absolutely no correlation between these races and the real world. And honestly, orcs in D&D have always been grey, grin or pink anyway. As for the drows, do you know anyone with absolutely black skin and the other features of a drow ? So it should be easy, except that some people have latched onto that and are using it as a lever to change other things in D&D, some of which need indeed to be portrayed more inclusively for example gender. As an other solution, closer to what you suggest, maybe create a race that has dark skin but is good ? But I doubt that would work either. [/QUOTE]

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