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<blockquote data-quote="Lyxen" data-source="post: 8537555" data-attributes="member: 7032025">You're welcome, there are nice gems here and there on the internet, not always easy to find. As you could see, the picture is far from being clear (at least for that edition). <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />As mentioned, my point was lateral to this discussion, it was really more about the importance of gods in the settings and their meddling, as the source for some of the difficulties about drows and orcs, not really clerics. Although it's interesting when you look at GDQ to see that, actually, the mess on the surface is not due to Lolth but to the worship of the Elder Elemental Eye by a &quot;dissident&quot; drow house, and that Lolth is almost a collateral damage in the campaign...And I did not discuss this as I agreed with you about this point. But I also agree with Gygax' players, religions, good and bad, are inextricably tied to a large part of the genre, and they fit D&amp;D so well that, since then, it's been the major tendency of all editions, settings and publications. And yes, there have been exceptions. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lyxen, post: 8537555, member: 7032025"] You're welcome, there are nice gems here and there on the internet, not always easy to find. As you could see, the picture is far from being clear (at least for that edition). :) As mentioned, my point was lateral to this discussion, it was really more about the importance of gods in the settings and their meddling, as the source for some of the difficulties about drows and orcs, not really clerics. Although it's interesting when you look at GDQ to see that, actually, the mess on the surface is not due to Lolth but to the worship of the Elder Elemental Eye by a "dissident" drow house, and that Lolth is almost a collateral damage in the campaign... And I did not discuss this as I agreed with you about this point. But I also agree with Gygax' players, religions, good and bad, are inextricably tied to a large part of the genre, and they fit D&D so well that, since then, it's been the major tendency of all editions, settings and publications. And yes, there have been exceptions. :) [/QUOTE]

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