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<blockquote data-quote="Ulrick" data-source="post: 6459" data-attributes="member: 775">I actually kinda find it interesting how orcs of 1st ed. look different than those of 2nd and 3rd ed.&nbsp; What happened to their piggish-like snouts?Personally, I like the orcs and goblins in the movie and books better than I like the D&amp;D orcs.&nbsp; When I watched the movie, I thought &quot;WOW! So that's what its like to fight orcs and goblins!&quot;I think in Middle-Earth there wear different &quot;breeds&quot; of orc.&nbsp; Some were stronger than others. I wish I had my MERP books here so I could look it up. Saruman created the &quot;Uruk-Hai&quot; which were a hybrid of troll and Human(?) so that they could be effective in daylight and have high stamina.Then there was the Olog-hai, which I think was a combination of Troll and Orc.&nbsp; Very tough.&nbsp; But couldn't stand the sun.Finally, there was the regular goblins of the Misty Mountains.(Some one correct me if I'm wrong).But all of these breeds were called &quot;orcs&quot; the wasn't any distinction of them except by breed.&nbsp; In D&amp;D, it would be saying goblinkin to mean &quot;goblins, hobgoblins, and bugbears.&quot;Ulrick</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ulrick, post: 6459, member: 775"] I actually kinda find it interesting how orcs of 1st ed. look different than those of 2nd and 3rd ed. What happened to their piggish-like snouts? Personally, I like the orcs and goblins in the movie and books better than I like the D&D orcs. When I watched the movie, I thought "WOW! So that's what its like to fight orcs and goblins!" I think in Middle-Earth there wear different "breeds" of orc. Some were stronger than others. I wish I had my MERP books here so I could look it up. Saruman created the "Uruk-Hai" which were a hybrid of troll and Human(?) so that they could be effective in daylight and have high stamina. Then there was the Olog-hai, which I think was a combination of Troll and Orc. Very tough. But couldn't stand the sun. Finally, there was the regular goblins of the Misty Mountains. (Some one correct me if I'm wrong). But all of these breeds were called "orcs" the wasn't any distinction of them except by breed. In D&D, it would be saying goblinkin to mean "goblins, hobgoblins, and bugbears." Ulrick [/QUOTE]

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