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Message: <blockquote data-quote="arscott" data-source="post: 4211755" data-attributes="member: 17969">I doubt it.  It seems like a simple rewording of the earlier minion hp rules to eliminate confusion.The kobold minion's hp line said:A minion dies when hit by an attack that deals damageThis could easily mean "no damage on a miss", which I suspect was the designer's original intent.  And it plays better--without this rule, the minions automatically die when hit with a half-on-miss attack (not quite as common as in 3e, but it makes undead minions useless vs. parties with a cleric).The new phrasing makes things clearer, while eliminating ambiguities in regards to things like Cleave.</blockquote>