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<blockquote data-quote="Quasqueton" data-source="post: 1524049" data-attributes="member: 3854"><p>I remember reading, somewhere, way back, what the designers of D&D3 thought of the orc alignment -- most people tended to play orcs as chaotic, so they changed the official alignment to match the way most people were already playing them.</p><p></p><p>Read the old AD&D1 MM. The description of orcs just screams chaotic -- only organized if forced by a strong leader, otherwise they tend to fight among themselves. In all my years of playing AD&D1, I never DMed or saw someone else DM orcs as anything but chaotic.</p><p></p><p>I think Gygax and others back in the early days really didn't give a lot of thought to how they aligned certain creatures (at least on the chaos-law axis). There's even one *non-intelligent* creature, (can't think of the name off the top of my head) that was Lawful Good. The D&D3 designers seemed to actually consider the alignment definitions when they assigned alignments to the various creatures.</p><p></p><p>As for halflings: the only images of them in AD&D1 showed "commoner-types". Pudgy, soft, and jolly. The only adventurer halfling I can think of in any image is Blodgett in the Slaver series -- and he was closer to the current halfling image than the old hobbit image. (Granted, at least he had hairy feet.)</p><p></p><p>The plump, easy-living halflings still exist. It's just that they aren't the adventurers that you see in most images now-adays. Lidda is a slim, trim, shoe-wearing adventurer. Don't hate her because she's beautiful.</p><p></p><p>Quasqueton</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Quasqueton, post: 1524049, member: 3854"] I remember reading, somewhere, way back, what the designers of D&D3 thought of the orc alignment -- most people tended to play orcs as chaotic, so they changed the official alignment to match the way most people were already playing them. Read the old AD&D1 MM. The description of orcs just screams chaotic -- only organized if forced by a strong leader, otherwise they tend to fight among themselves. In all my years of playing AD&D1, I never DMed or saw someone else DM orcs as anything but chaotic. I think Gygax and others back in the early days really didn't give a lot of thought to how they aligned certain creatures (at least on the chaos-law axis). There's even one *non-intelligent* creature, (can't think of the name off the top of my head) that was Lawful Good. The D&D3 designers seemed to actually consider the alignment definitions when they assigned alignments to the various creatures. As for halflings: the only images of them in AD&D1 showed "commoner-types". Pudgy, soft, and jolly. The only adventurer halfling I can think of in any image is Blodgett in the Slaver series -- and he was closer to the current halfling image than the old hobbit image. (Granted, at least he had hairy feet.) The plump, easy-living halflings still exist. It's just that they aren't the adventurers that you see in most images now-adays. Lidda is a slim, trim, shoe-wearing adventurer. Don't hate her because she's beautiful. Quasqueton [/QUOTE]
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