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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 1524245" data-attributes="member: 18280">I don't use hobgoblins, and my orcs are largely neutral evil.  They have a sense of honor, but are often out for themselves.  In Tolkein, Sauron's orcs were definately chaotic (with the rare neutral-at-best), but Saruman's orcs/half-orcs were pretty orderly.From my campaign background:Covered in forested hills, swampland, and small pools, Tal Slathan was colonized by dwarves long ago, and, though they are gone, the memory of the silver and gemstones they mined from Tal Slathan’s hills remains.  The old dwarf-hold was known as Marrowgate, but it’s location and the means to enter therein have been lost to time.Men followed to Tal Slathan, and founded the village of Oakhill, overlooked by Caer Pavallan.  They traded foodstuffs to the dwarves of Marrowgate, in exchange for precious stones and silver, worked and unworked, then transported these to the farther villages of Long Archer and Selby-by-the-Water.  This relationship long endured, and Oakhill grew prosperous.  Other small communities were founded upon Tal Slathan, including the Temple of the Silver Cat, where the worshipers of Baerbeth conducted rituals following the moon’s phases.Then, one night in the dark of the moon, orcs from the Grey Hills sailed across Lake Elidyr in many skin boats.  They raided Oakhill and besieged Caer Pavallan under the banner of the Blood-Drenched Fist.  Though messengers flew across the lake to bring respite from the siege, aid came too late to save the castle.  The orcish shaman, Grodd du Grumdash, summoned a great infernal shade that swept through the castle, unmanning those who guarded its walls.  So Caer Pavallan fell, and those who would have come to Oakhill’s aid were captured and enslaved, or else driven from the shore.It was in this time that the dwarves of Marrowgate vanished, though whether they were slain, or fled, or sealed themselves within their delving no man knows.  What is known is that, through haplessly captured slave labor, the orcs sought to mine the riches of Tal Slathan for themselves.  Yet, while they long endured, they were in the end brought to ruin by the Shadow of Grodd du Grumdash, which had lain dormant for many long years while the orcs mined and prospered.Now, Oakhill lies in ruins, and Caer Pavallan stands over it like both a shadow, and a beacon for the lost riches of Marrowgate.  Adventurers still come to Tal Slathan to seek their fortune, and indeed some of them find it.  There are those who return over Lake Elidyr with pockets dripping silver, but others return with little to show, and others yet do not return at all.copyright (c) Daniel J. Bishop.  All rights reserved.</blockquote>

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