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<blockquote data-quote="(Psi)SeveredHead" data-source="post: 2839395" data-attributes="member: 1165">Don't overplay them. I laugh at this statement. Not all the orcs should have the same stats. You're allowed to have an orc Ftr2 with Int 12 and Charisma 10 telling &quot;the boyz&quot; what to do.Using stealthy tactics is extremely basic. Kids know to do this, and most kids aren't tactical experts.They might win. Among 50 peasants, there's bound to be a few warriors and maybe a few people who aren't warriors but have decent Int. Too bad they suffer from the defender's disadvantage.Contrary to popular belief, the defenders have a lot of disadvantages. They know the terrain better, have better lines of supply and communication, and can fortify themselves - very good advantages. However, they don't always know if an attack is coming, nor do they necessarily know where the orcs will attack. (A smartish orc leader, whose tribe lives west of the village, might think to attack from the south instead.) The humans either concentrate their defenses one way, or they have to spread out their defenses, leaving their &quot;border&quot; thinly guarded. If the humans have never suffered a serious attack before, they might be complacent.The humans need to be prepared in order to win. It's doable, but not guaranteed.On morale issues - most of the peasants have probably never been in a serious fight before. They might have seen a serious fight, but that's not the same thing as never having been in one. They might think they can't beat an orc.The Battle of the the Golden Spurs is a great example of commoners with high morale beating a theoretically superior force. (The Flemish commanders were smarter than the French commanders in this battle. The commoners were the Flemings.) See the wikipedia article for more details.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="(Psi)SeveredHead, post: 2839395, member: 1165"] Don't overplay them. I laugh at this statement. Not all the orcs should have the same stats. You're allowed to have an orc Ftr2 with Int 12 and Charisma 10 telling "the boyz" what to do. Using stealthy tactics is extremely basic. Kids know to do this, and most kids aren't tactical experts. They might win. Among 50 peasants, there's bound to be a few warriors and maybe a few people who aren't warriors but have decent Int. Too bad they suffer from the defender's disadvantage. Contrary to popular belief, the defenders have a lot of disadvantages. They know the terrain better, have better lines of supply and communication, and can fortify themselves - very good advantages. However, they don't always know if an attack is coming, nor do they necessarily know [i]where[/i] the orcs will attack. (A smartish orc leader, whose tribe lives west of the village, might think to attack from the south instead.) The humans either concentrate their defenses one way, or they have to [i]spread out their defenses[/i], leaving their "border" thinly guarded. If the humans have never suffered a serious attack before, they might be complacent. The humans need to be prepared in order to win. It's doable, but not guaranteed. On morale issues - most of the peasants have probably never been in a serious fight before. They might have [i]seen[/i] a serious fight, but that's not the same thing as never having been in one. They might think they [i]can't[/i] beat an orc. The Battle of the the Golden Spurs is a great example of commoners [i]with high morale[/i] beating a theoretically superior force. (The Flemish commanders were smarter than the French commanders in this battle. The commoners were the Flemings.) See the wikipedia article for more details. [/QUOTE]

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