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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Three_Haligonians" data-source="post: 1552741" data-attributes="member: 19546">We don't understand your quote: "the nurture vs. nature of orcs is...evil"  do you mean to say that orcs are evil as a result of BOTH nature and nurture?  For example, in a game J is leading one of our PC's is a sorceror who specialises in mind affecting spells.  She encountered an orc who was part of an army of orcs, the guy was definately evil...like most orcs.  She hit him with a "charm monster" spell so that he would be friendly with her...we can agree: at this point, still evil.  However, while on the road with this orc, gaining tactical information about his army, the two were attacked by a pixie (long story concerning the sorceror), during which, the orc was hit by the pixie's arrow of "memory loss".  So, in regards to nature vrs. nurture, we have now completely erased the orc's nurture, he has no recollection of his upbringing.  The orc is effectively like a newborn.  He is, at this point, raised by a kind and benevolent man.  In our campaign, J lends more to the orc's nurture than he does to the nature, meaning: the orc becomes a kind, benevolent man, like the man who cared for him.Just to clarify in regards to this orc.  He is no longer influenced by any sort of magic.  The "charm monster" and memory loss arrow simply created a situation in which a grown orc is given a clean slate in regards to his rearing.  Also, J has given the orc a personality that reflects his orcish nature, in that the orc has problems concerning his anger.  He is, effectivly, always working to keep his orcish rage at bay in order to make calm, rational choices, and, like all people, ocasionally he loses control of this.So, Diaglo, and anyone else concerned: Would our orc be a kind, benevolent sort of person (bear in mind we are talking about most likely, we are aware that people are not always a carbon copy of their parent), or would his nature dictate that there would be nothing we could do to change his ways?Thanks again everyone!J, T, and R of Three Haligonians</blockquote>

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