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Message: <blockquote data-quote="charcoalninja" data-source="post: 7679907" data-attributes="member: 68710">I'm not saying he won't have a powerful undead escort, I'm just saying that the moment the party sees his squishy carcass they're going to focus fire the big guy, ignoring the minions until big O is put down (which won't take long).  At some point in the combat, and I argue it'll be really quickly since Orcus is HUGE and has 0 abilities to protect or hide himself, each member of the party will make an attack on him, and if they do 405hp is going to go away very quickly. As written he is utterly dependant on the proper selection of minions in order to ensure that he doesn't get the piss kicked out of him embarassingly, especially if the DM makes the mistake of burning his 500hp summon on a huge mass of weak undead that get blasted into dust on the cleric's next action.  I like his minionmancy, I like his offense and the interplay with his mechanics, I just feel that DMs are going to be frustrated that they only get 2-3 rounds to actually PLAY this demonlord since he's going to get ganked in short order.</blockquote>