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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sword of Spirit" data-source="post: 6580923" data-attributes="member: 6677017">With the giant spider, the reason it is a relevant question is that it makes sense that if the piercing damage alone is sufficient to reduce the character to 0 hp, then the poison damage isn't going to kick-in and stabilize the character.Because of the particular way giant spider poison interacts with 0 hp, I would recommend, in this particular case, to see if the piercing damage reduces them to 0 hp. If it does so they are dying, and the non-lethal poison damage is irrelevent. If the piercing damage doesn't take them to 0 hp, but the poison does, the rules as written are clear that they are at 0 hp but stable.</blockquote>