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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aulirophile" data-source="post: 5155950" data-attributes="member: 86312">Unless the power you're using readsEffect: Knock proneHit: Do damage.In that order, it doesn't work that way. The enemies prone-ness is decided when you roll the attack. There are only a very few powers that specifically say do x, then do damage. It is always assumed you do damage and then do w/e other effects. So it is "useless" to you. I would disagree about the wolf, proning at will with something as easy as CA is awesome. Prone, shift back one. He stands on his turn and... does absolutely nothing, unless he has reach. Can't charge, can't melee. Intelligently used prones are one of the best action deniers in existence, as any Polearm Fighter knows. Which brings me to my second point: You should convince someone in your party to go with an auto-prone build, and you take headman's chop. Delay your turn to always be right after theirs and go to town. This feat is bad in a vacuum, in a party it can be very good. While that might not work for you, I know a lot of people who love party synergy.</blockquote>