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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shard O'Glase" data-source="post: 863838" data-attributes="member: 1134">People can be bypassed but it isn't always easy.  And it may not eb able to happen round 1.Disarm I prefer because if the players are money grubbing goons looking for insane loot I suspect the oposition has a similar mentality.  Destoying a multi thousand GP item I can see if its the choice between life or death, but taking the lesser option of disarm seems to be the more reasonable 1st choice.  And yes disarm is an attack action so can be sued with the full attack, though if it either doesn't succeed or the archer has quick draw you take more hits per round which makes you lose if it goes for 2 rounds only. (full attack round one while you partial charged, full attack round 2 with the 5 foot step and the quick draw spare bow).Knockdown is really cool IMO, since chances are you'll be getting mutliple checks every round, and eventually the archer will fail the opposed check.  Bt this is a 2 feat based tactic and while great it isn't the standard package, so not a big threat to archers everywhere.</blockquote>