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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jgsugden" data-source="post: 1258193" data-attributes="member: 2629">I don't have a CW with me, but as I recall, OotBI doesn't force a penalty on to hit rolls like Manyshot does.Depending upon the AC of a foe, your various bonuses to damage and a few other issues, the value of the manyshot feat vs the value of the OotBI ability can be far apart. In some situations, Manyshot is far superior. In some situations, OotBI is a far better option. The best situation, by far, is to be able to choose between the two options in a given situation.For instance, a character with 10 levels of OotBI that has a total AB of 32 and damage of (d8 + d6 fire + 15) damage with a bow that is facing a creature with an AC of 44 would be *far* better off using the OotBI than using Manyshot for 4 arrows at -8 to hit. Using Manyshot, the expected damage is about 4.5 per round. Using the OotBI ability (+5d8), the expected damage rises to about 20. That ends up being very close to the expected damage from a full attack from the same character with rapid shot, though you also get the move action.In other words: Everything has a time and place. If your DM throws creatures with low ACs and many hit points, OotBI might not be optimal for you. If he throws things with high ACs at you, OotBI might be pretty nice.</blockquote>