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<blockquote data-quote="mlund" data-source="post: 4482259" data-attributes="member: 50304">Actually, it was &quot;homicide,&quot; not necessarily &quot;murder.&quot; They aren't the same thing. &quot;Murder,&quot; is a type of homicide that implies an intentional and unjust killing. Ergo, whether it was justified or not does change whether it was murder or not.When you kill someone who is attempting to unjustly kill you it is a form of what is called &quot;Justifiable Homicide,&quot; that we typically label self-defense. When you kill someone who is attempting to unjustly kill someone else it is also called &quot;Justifiable Homicide,&quot; but obviously not self-defense. If you kill someone who is attempting to maim or rape someone it is usually Justifiable Homicide as well. When a capital criminal is executed for his crimes (such as Murder or High Treason) the execution isn't considered Murder either - unless the State is corrupt and passing capital sentence unjustly.Throwing the word &quot;murder&quot; around every time anyone intentionally kills someone else for any reason really dilutes the meaning of the word and the gravity of the action.I suppose the whole 4th-wall breaking / genre-savvy thing could be considered conclusive proof. On the other hand, I think V acted because he believed it was likely that Kubato deserved death rather than that it was certain, and was willing to ignore the difference for the sake of expediency. To be fair to V, though, expediency might be the difference between the lives of everyone in the world and their utter annihilation.- Marty Lund</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mlund, post: 4482259, member: 50304"] Actually, it was "homicide," not necessarily "murder." They aren't the same thing. "Murder," is a type of homicide that implies an intentional and unjust killing. Ergo, whether it was justified or not [B]does[/B] change whether it was murder or not. When you kill someone who is attempting to unjustly kill you it is a form of what is called "Justifiable Homicide," that we typically label self-defense. When you kill someone who is attempting to unjustly kill someone else it is also called "Justifiable Homicide," but obviously not self-defense. If you kill someone who is attempting to maim or rape someone it is usually Justifiable Homicide as well. When a capital criminal is executed for his crimes (such as Murder or High Treason) the execution isn't considered Murder either - unless the State is corrupt and passing capital sentence unjustly. Throwing the word "murder" around every time anyone intentionally kills someone else for any reason really dilutes the meaning of the word and the gravity of the action. I suppose the whole 4th-wall breaking / genre-savvy thing could be considered conclusive proof. On the other hand, I think V acted because he believed it was [B]likely[/B] that Kubato deserved death rather than that it was [B]certain[/B], and was willing to ignore the difference for the sake of expediency. To be fair to V, though, expediency might be the difference between the lives of everyone in the world and their utter annihilation. - Marty Lund [/QUOTE]

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