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<blockquote data-quote="Cadfan" data-source="post: 4482319" data-attributes="member: 40961">Well... I don't know where you're going with this.If you define &quot;murder&quot; as &quot;the killing of a person under circumstances defined by law as murder,&quot; then yes, it was murder.&nbsp; But under that definition it isn't ultimately clear we should care.&nbsp; As Kubuta just finished explaining, the legal system that created that definition of murder was completely inadequate to the task of restraining him.If you define &quot;murder&quot; as &quot;unjustified killing,&quot; which tends to be the most culturally universal definition, it wasn't murder.Maybe its the lawyer in me talking.&nbsp; But when someone goes out of their way to explain to you that there lots of really good, legitimate reasons why you should kill them, but haha, you're not going to because your personal morals won't let you, I think they're estopped from complaining when you do in fact kill them.... I resolve an awful lot of moral questions with the principles of estoppel, now that I think about it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cadfan, post: 4482319, member: 40961"] Well... I don't know where you're going with this. If you define "murder" as "the killing of a person under circumstances defined by law as murder," then yes, it was murder. But under that definition it isn't ultimately clear we should care. As Kubuta just finished explaining, the legal system that created that definition of murder was completely inadequate to the task of restraining him. If you define "murder" as "unjustified killing," which tends to be the most culturally universal definition, it wasn't murder. Maybe its the lawyer in me talking. But when someone goes out of their way to explain to you that there lots of really good, legitimate reasons why you should kill them, but haha, you're not going to because your personal morals won't let you, I think they're estopped from complaining when you do in fact kill them. ... I resolve an awful lot of moral questions with the principles of estoppel, now that I think about it. [/QUOTE]

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