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<blockquote data-quote="Negflar2099" data-source="post: 4562284" data-attributes="member: 65944">Listen I understand it's the Giant's comic strip and he can do whatever he want with it but I disagree with the idea that he doesn't make rules jokes anymore. He still makes tons of rules jokes and I'm sorry but when he makes them about 3.x they feel, I don't know, stale to me now. It's not quite as bad as someone still making jokes about dial up modems or &quot;portable&quot; phones the size of your leg but it's getting there. It's like if the Daily Show kept making George Bush jokes after Obama is sworn in. They maybe funny but it's time to move on. And I doubly disagree with the idea that you can't find humor in 4e. I love that game, in fact if you've read my posts you know I'm one of it's stoutest defenders, but c'mon there is tons of stuff to make fun of here. Leaving aside that Barbarian and Bard are both now out and playable there's jokes by the tons about Elan and what happens to him and V. suddenly being powerless. Then there's rules problems gallor. I can't wait until Roy tries to disarm someone only to realize under 4e rules he can't do that anymore unless he has the specific power in his list.There is tons of humor here, OtS still makes rules jokes, it would fit right in and it would be hilarious! There are reasons to make the switch.&nbsp; I understand why he hasn't yet but I hope that's because 4e just came at a bad time for where he was in the story. With any luck the Order will be reunited, the current plot line completed and the world switched to 4e rules by the time the PHB II comes out. I know that none of that looks likely but D&amp;D is a fantasy game afterall. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Negflar2099, post: 4562284, member: 65944"] Listen I understand it's the Giant's comic strip and he can do whatever he want with it but I disagree with the idea that he doesn't make rules jokes anymore. He still makes tons of rules jokes and I'm sorry but when he makes them about 3.x they feel, I don't know, stale to me now. It's not quite as bad as someone still making jokes about dial up modems or "portable" phones the size of your leg but it's getting there. It's like if the Daily Show kept making George Bush jokes after Obama is sworn in. They maybe funny but it's time to move on. And I doubly disagree with the idea that you can't find humor in 4e. I love that game, in fact if you've read my posts you know I'm one of it's stoutest defenders, but c'mon there is tons of stuff to make fun of here. Leaving aside that Barbarian and Bard are both now out and playable there's jokes by the tons about Elan and what happens to him and V. suddenly being powerless. Then there's rules problems gallor. I can't wait until Roy tries to disarm someone only to realize under 4e rules he can't do that anymore unless he has the specific power in his list. There is tons of humor here, OtS still makes rules jokes, it would fit right in and it would be hilarious! There are reasons to make the switch. I understand why he hasn't yet but I hope that's because 4e just came at a bad time for where he was in the story. With any luck the Order will be reunited, the current plot line completed and the world switched to 4e rules by the time the PHB II comes out. I know that none of that looks likely but D&D is a fantasy game afterall. :D [/QUOTE]

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