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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7873258" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>#1 The Empire Strikes Back - Stars Wars was a phenomenon that changed the industry in and of itself, but this is the movie where people started taking Star Wars seriously</p><p>#2 Star Wars (A New Hope) - The movie revolutionized movie making, and deservedly won numerous Oscars. However, a lack of character development means it's just now quite as good as the slower paced more cerebral sequel.</p><p>#3 Return of the Jedi - The final act has both glorious moments and sappiness, but compared to so many stories that start out well but can't deliver on an ending, 'Jedi' still can't be faulted as a third act. The ending was big, it was massive, it was emotional, and it neatly wrapped up all of its story arcs.</p><p>#4 Rogue One: A Star Wars Story - The only Star Wars movie outside the original three that managed to have a clear purpose, and a clear sense of what it wanted to be, and managed to actually deliver on its intention. While there are moments of weakness in the script and a few plot holes, it's also one of the few Star Wars movies that manages to patch more plot holes than it creates. A worthy addition to the Star Wars universe, and really a true fan film by someone that obviously cared about the setting, the story, and the characters.</p><p>#5 Revenge of the Sith - The best of the prequels marred mostly by having to wrap up the story arc of its characters in a way that delivered a payoff despite the fact that nothing hitherto set up the story for a big pay off. Poorly reasoned morality from the guy that convinced himself it would have been immoral for Han to shoot first undermines the story at every turn, so that what should have been a tragedy is something of a farce.</p><p>#6 Attack of the Clones - A decent movie with the best payoff of the prequels, but marred by terrible writing in the second act, so that what should of been a romance becomes a farce.</p><p>#7 Solo - A mediocre heist movie suffers from not really being a Star Wars movie despite draping itself in the names, setting, and paraphernalia of the Star Wars universe. There had been better efforts at giving Han Solo a backstory in the extended universe than this one.</p><p>#8 The Phantom Menace - Childish and inane. A decent idea for a story, beautiful art direction, and a great score is marred by it's lack of direction over what the movie wants to be - you can be children's comic movie or the beginning of a Shakespearean tragedy but not really both, an illogical script that jumps through a bunch of hoops for no obvious reason, and really terrible writing.</p><p>#9 The Force Awakens - It made the Phantom Menace actually look good. The Phantom Menace was a brilliant idea for a movie marred by bad movie making. The Force Awakens was a terrible idea for a movie elevated by decent movie making, but ultimately no amount of lipstick can make a pig look like anything but a pig. This is a movie that never should have been made. Much like the Special Edition version of 'The Return of the Jedi', this is movie that actively makes the original trilogy worse, undermining the story, characters, and plot of the original in the bizarre belief that what fans really wanted was to reset the universe back to square one. Illogical at every step, cynical, unoriginal, and with absolutely no idea what sort of story it wants to tell, this is movie that should have ended the career of everyone involved in it for a good long time, if not permanently.</p><p>#10 The Last Jedi - One of the worst movies ever made, but given the train wreck of a first act that this was supposed to build on, nothing else really could have been expected. A total farce worthy only of mockery from now to the end of time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 7873258, member: 4937"] #1 The Empire Strikes Back - Stars Wars was a phenomenon that changed the industry in and of itself, but this is the movie where people started taking Star Wars seriously #2 Star Wars (A New Hope) - The movie revolutionized movie making, and deservedly won numerous Oscars. However, a lack of character development means it's just now quite as good as the slower paced more cerebral sequel. #3 Return of the Jedi - The final act has both glorious moments and sappiness, but compared to so many stories that start out well but can't deliver on an ending, 'Jedi' still can't be faulted as a third act. The ending was big, it was massive, it was emotional, and it neatly wrapped up all of its story arcs. #4 Rogue One: A Star Wars Story - The only Star Wars movie outside the original three that managed to have a clear purpose, and a clear sense of what it wanted to be, and managed to actually deliver on its intention. While there are moments of weakness in the script and a few plot holes, it's also one of the few Star Wars movies that manages to patch more plot holes than it creates. A worthy addition to the Star Wars universe, and really a true fan film by someone that obviously cared about the setting, the story, and the characters. #5 Revenge of the Sith - The best of the prequels marred mostly by having to wrap up the story arc of its characters in a way that delivered a payoff despite the fact that nothing hitherto set up the story for a big pay off. Poorly reasoned morality from the guy that convinced himself it would have been immoral for Han to shoot first undermines the story at every turn, so that what should have been a tragedy is something of a farce. #6 Attack of the Clones - A decent movie with the best payoff of the prequels, but marred by terrible writing in the second act, so that what should of been a romance becomes a farce. #7 Solo - A mediocre heist movie suffers from not really being a Star Wars movie despite draping itself in the names, setting, and paraphernalia of the Star Wars universe. There had been better efforts at giving Han Solo a backstory in the extended universe than this one. #8 The Phantom Menace - Childish and inane. A decent idea for a story, beautiful art direction, and a great score is marred by it's lack of direction over what the movie wants to be - you can be children's comic movie or the beginning of a Shakespearean tragedy but not really both, an illogical script that jumps through a bunch of hoops for no obvious reason, and really terrible writing. #9 The Force Awakens - It made the Phantom Menace actually look good. The Phantom Menace was a brilliant idea for a movie marred by bad movie making. The Force Awakens was a terrible idea for a movie elevated by decent movie making, but ultimately no amount of lipstick can make a pig look like anything but a pig. This is a movie that never should have been made. Much like the Special Edition version of 'The Return of the Jedi', this is movie that actively makes the original trilogy worse, undermining the story, characters, and plot of the original in the bizarre belief that what fans really wanted was to reset the universe back to square one. Illogical at every step, cynical, unoriginal, and with absolutely no idea what sort of story it wants to tell, this is movie that should have ended the career of everyone involved in it for a good long time, if not permanently. #10 The Last Jedi - One of the worst movies ever made, but given the train wreck of a first act that this was supposed to build on, nothing else really could have been expected. A total farce worthy only of mockery from now to the end of time. [/QUOTE]
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