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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 7876976" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>Yah.</p><p></p><p>I think it is pretty well established that a great many human judgements are not rational. They are made on an emotional level, and then we tack on rationalizations that sound good after the fact. Moreover, the emotioal judgement is made without our conscious knowledge or intent, so we don't notice them happening, and we are led to believe the rationalizations are the real reasons.</p><p></p><p>Luke and Rey's piloting are a fine example. The fact that Luke has puttered around in the equivalent of a Piper Cub is not meaningful - he's <em>never flown in a zero-G environment</em>. He's <em>never flown a combat mission</em>. But, somehow, he not only survives the Death Star Battle, but is the bestest of the bestest, and saves the day! This is like asking my friend, who does fly Piper Cubs occasionally, to get in an F-16 and duel it out against people from the Top Gun school. It makes no sense!</p><p></p><p>Which is fine. This is space opera, he's one of the heroes! He can have superpowers, and I'm okay with that. I love the movie anyway.</p><p></p><p>But, give Rey the same superpower (and heck, do us the favor of making her bump into a few things as she works it out) and OH NOES! SHE CANT DO THAT!! SHES NOT LUUUUKE!!!1!"</p><p></p><p>This does not speak to a reasoned position. It speaks to an emotional one. Which I'd also be fine with. You can have an emotional attachment to Luke that you don't to Rey, so that you forgive or overlook issues with Luke that you don't with Rey. I'd be cool with that.</p><p></p><p>But you have to <em>admit</em> that it is emotional. Don't give me rationalizations that don't hold up under scrutiny.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 7876976, member: 177"] Yah. I think it is pretty well established that a great many human judgements are not rational. They are made on an emotional level, and then we tack on rationalizations that sound good after the fact. Moreover, the emotioal judgement is made without our conscious knowledge or intent, so we don't notice them happening, and we are led to believe the rationalizations are the real reasons. Luke and Rey's piloting are a fine example. The fact that Luke has puttered around in the equivalent of a Piper Cub is not meaningful - he's [I]never flown in a zero-G environment[/I]. He's [I]never flown a combat mission[/I]. But, somehow, he not only survives the Death Star Battle, but is the bestest of the bestest, and saves the day! This is like asking my friend, who does fly Piper Cubs occasionally, to get in an F-16 and duel it out against people from the Top Gun school. It makes no sense! Which is fine. This is space opera, he's one of the heroes! He can have superpowers, and I'm okay with that. I love the movie anyway. But, give Rey the same superpower (and heck, do us the favor of making her bump into a few things as she works it out) and OH NOES! SHE CANT DO THAT!! SHES NOT LUUUUKE!!!1!" This does not speak to a reasoned position. It speaks to an emotional one. Which I'd also be fine with. You can have an emotional attachment to Luke that you don't to Rey, so that you forgive or overlook issues with Luke that you don't with Rey. I'd be cool with that. But you have to [I]admit[/I] that it is emotional. Don't give me rationalizations that don't hold up under scrutiny. [/QUOTE]
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