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<blockquote data-quote="Gradine" data-source="post: 7877118" data-attributes="member: 57112"><p>The problem with all of this is that it's demonstrably wrong. You cannot watch either TFA and TLJ with anything close to an objective lens and then say with a straight face that Rey "hasn't struggled". Literally her entire arc in TFA is a series of failures that she must still learn to persevere through. There is literally no other possible accurate reading of her arc in that film.</p><p></p><p>Because the actual text does not support what you and many other critics of Rey's character want to assume to about her, you have resorted to making things up and ignoring reality in substitution of your own. There is absolutely no reason to accept such arguments as being made in good faith. That is the emotional argument that Umbran is referring to.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gradine, post: 7877118, member: 57112"] The problem with all of this is that it's demonstrably wrong. You cannot watch either TFA and TLJ with anything close to an objective lens and then say with a straight face that Rey "hasn't struggled". Literally her entire arc in TFA is a series of failures that she must still learn to persevere through. There is literally no other possible accurate reading of her arc in that film. Because the actual text does not support what you and many other critics of Rey's character want to assume to about her, you have resorted to making things up and ignoring reality in substitution of your own. There is absolutely no reason to accept such arguments as being made in good faith. That is the emotional argument that Umbran is referring to. [/QUOTE]
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