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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7878038" data-attributes="member: 4937">Han Solo (apparently) quantifying time in Parsecs has always been one of the minor blunders of the OT, and the fans certainly don't like to have to tie themselves up in knots to invent some sort of explanation for it.  It's a clear defect in the film to anyone who knows what a parsec is.It's not a fair comparison. Having Han Solo refer to time in units of Parsecs causes a minor bit of agony, but doesn't undermine a significant portion of the setting and has a few simple explanations - even if the real explanation is simply ignorance on the part of the script writer.What's really funny is watching people twist themselves up to make straw man arguments both about how other people behave or how the whole lightspeed ram can be justified.This doesn't hold up. Unlike the escape pods, the Cruiser was 'out of range' as it had continued on to lure the fleet away from the escaping vessels (never mind that the actual range in space is line of sight, we'll just assume this means out of effective range given the limits of their targeting). The amount of time Hux had to shift to the cruiser was minimal even in terms of on screen time (which might even be longer than the time he had available). Moreover, Hux has a good in setting explanation for not expecting a capital ship to ram another capital ship - in setting it's just never done. While we've seen ramming attacks before, they've always involve impromptu 'kamikazi' style attacks, like the one that took out the bridge of the Devastator in RotJ. So even if Hux had been expecting a ramming attack, he had no in setting reason to expect a light speed ram. And the nature of the light speed ram attack means that the Cruiser can safely turn around at virtually any range and close the final portion of the gap more or less instantly.A calculation that cannot be more difficult than the one necessary to jump to lightspeed in the first place.But, we've already seen a prequel trilogy and a long running cartoon filled with drone unmanned fighters. So the tech is available. You just build a purpose built droid to fly the missile.   And it's not like highly intelligent homing missiles are unknown in the setting.It's not that I would rather that, it's that whenever you introduce the light speed ram attack or try to go through backflips to justify it, you are saying that you prefer that.   That's the reason these sort of things have been through the decades kept out of the canon, and hyperspace jumps have been given so many restrictions on how they can be used.I'm not even going to get into Holdo.  As soon as I attack how poorly written Holdo is as a character, people are going to start accusing me of sexism (which is IMO itself indicative of a sexist mindset that proves that they, and not me, primarily see the character in terms of the gender).  However, I will say that again, a perusal of what we've learned about script history shows how management decisions and forced rewrites caused plot holes to appear in the script that weren't present in the original.  The original version of the script was much more like Morris's imagined "33" style plot, and there were far fewer plots holes and far clearer motivations on the part of the original version of the characters.</blockquote>

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