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<blockquote data-quote="Thia Halmades" data-source="post: 2752417" data-attributes="member: 35863">I've been on both sides of this fence, so I can impart three immediate situations which come to mind.First, back in the day-day while I was in college, groups came and went fairly regularly.&nbsp; Eventually I had a group I played with, but that broke down after people started graduating and moving off campus.&nbsp; That was a downer, but I assumed I'd find a new group.&nbsp; I was correct.The new group were a bunch of prats, ultimately.&nbsp; The worst part was that gaming in general was important enough to me that I was willing to be frustrated by their poor play and absurd demands (two games in, and the same prat wants to change his character for the Nth time... I finally lost my temper, and it got messy).&nbsp; It was very difficult to tell a cohesive story about the characters because they couldn't decide what they wanted to do.&nbsp; Ultimately they opted to vote me out (!!) and I was the DM.&nbsp; You can imagine that didn't go over terribly well. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp; I got through it, but that was a bitter lump of bile in my throat for a long time.After I moved, I hooked back up with one of the guys who had graduated.&nbsp; Started a group, but it was too big and I wasn't ready for the stress yet, nor had I prepared properly, so that failed.&nbsp; Started a second group, built an idea from the ground up, got everyone to agree on the ground rules, and away we went.&nbsp; Three years later, I still have three core players, had to kick one player out, another left because of the guy I booted, and one more is leaving.&nbsp; I still have four people who love the game and are looking to actively recruit for the fifth slot.These things come with time; I've been booted, I've given people the boot, and it's rough.&nbsp; It's truly rough, especially when friendships and loyalties are involved.&nbsp; You have my sympathy.&nbsp; The advice I would give is very simple:&nbsp; Find the group you like, don't waste your time to play if you aren't enjoying yourself.&nbsp; That does defeat the purpose of the game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Thia Halmades, post: 2752417, member: 35863"] I've been on both sides of this fence, so I can impart three immediate situations which come to mind. First, back in the day-day while I was in college, groups came and went fairly regularly. Eventually I had a group I played with, but that broke down after people started graduating and moving off campus. That was a downer, but I assumed I'd find a new group. I was correct. The new group were a bunch of prats, ultimately. The worst part was that gaming in general was important enough to me that I was willing to be frustrated by their poor play and absurd demands (two games in, and the same prat wants to change his character for the Nth time... I finally lost my temper, and it got messy). It was very difficult to tell a cohesive story about the characters because they couldn't decide what they wanted to do. Ultimately they opted to vote me out (!!) and I was the DM. You can imagine that didn't go over terribly well. ;) I got through it, but that was a bitter lump of bile in my throat for a long time. After I moved, I hooked back up with one of the guys who had graduated. Started a group, but it was too big and I wasn't ready for the stress yet, nor had I prepared properly, so that failed. Started a second group, built an idea from the ground up, got everyone to agree on the ground rules, and away we went. Three years later, I still have three core players, had to kick one player out, another left because of the guy I booted, and one more is leaving. I still have four people who love the game and are looking to actively recruit for the fifth slot. These things come with time; I've been booted, I've given people the boot, and it's rough. It's truly rough, especially when friendships and loyalties are involved. You have my sympathy. The advice I would give is very simple: Find the group you like, don't waste your time to play if you aren't enjoying yourself. That does defeat the purpose of the game. [/QUOTE]

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