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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 265784" data-attributes="member: 177">I initially wrote a very long reply.&nbsp; However, I think I will shorten it....Lizard, you wanted me to show you one original idea.&nbsp; I did - Quantum Mechanics.&nbsp; I'm sorry, but you show an ignorance of the history of science, and of it's practice.&nbsp; You really shouldn't allow your stridency to drive you to speak of that which you are unfamiliar.As a matter of fact, Schrodenger's Equation very specifically came out of the blue.&nbsp; Shrodinger himself said as much.&nbsp; There are no &quot;first principles&quot; that lead to it.&nbsp; It could not be derived from anything.&nbsp; Nor could it be found by systematic search (he had no modern computers, and the number of possibilities was infinite in any event).&nbsp; The equation was chosen based upon inspiration and intuition.&nbsp; It is not a logical conclusion.&nbsp; The practice of theoretical science goes like this, on occasion - it is not all one thing following from another.&nbsp; Nor is every single step motivated or checked with experiment.&nbsp; Einstein was dead before some parts of his theories recieved experimental verification, nor wasmuch of his work motivated by trying to get a theory to match experimental data, since said data didn't exist yet.&nbsp; On occasion, a theoretical researcher will jump from point A to B, and only provide the logical connection between them after the fact.&nbsp; Inspiration does actually play a part.&nbsp; So, there you have it.&nbsp; One original idea, in science, even.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 265784, member: 177"] I initially wrote a very long reply. However, I think I will shorten it.... Lizard, you wanted me to show you one original idea. I did - Quantum Mechanics. I'm sorry, but you show an ignorance of the history of science, and of it's practice. You really shouldn't allow your stridency to drive you to speak of that which you are unfamiliar. As a matter of fact, Schrodenger's Equation very specifically came out of the blue. Shrodinger himself said as much. There are no "first principles" that lead to it. It could not be [i]derived[/i] from anything. Nor could it be found by systematic search (he had no modern computers, and the number of possibilities was infinite in any event). The equation was chosen based upon inspiration and intuition. It is not a logical conclusion. The practice of theoretical science goes like this, on occasion - it is not all one thing following from another. Nor is every single step motivated or checked with experiment. Einstein was dead before some parts of his theories recieved experimental verification, nor wasmuch of his work motivated by trying to get a theory to match experimental data, since said data didn't exist yet. On occasion, a theoretical researcher will jump from point A to B, and only provide the logical connection between them after the fact. Inspiration does actually play a part. So, there you have it. One original idea, in science, even. [/QUOTE]

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